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filthy
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Posted - 09/23/2010 :  06:52:46  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Seems they find new species every time we turn around. Here's a couple more, one of them showing evidence of a Beatles hairdo.



I dunno. These were found in Utah, but I don't suppose we can blame it on the Mormons. I'd like to but in the interests of fair play, not to mention scientific accuracy, I'll not.
Paleontologists report discovery of 2 new horned dinosaur species in southern Utah

Scientists said Wednesday they've discovered fossils in the southern Utah desert of two new dinosaur species closely related to the Triceratops, including one with 15 horns on its large head.

The discovery of the new plant-eating species — including Kosmoceratops richardsoni, considered the most ornate-headed dinosaur known to man — was reported Wednesday in the online scientific journal PLoS ONE, produced by the Public Library of Science.

The other dinosaur, which has five horns and is the larger of the two, was dubbed Utahceratops gettyi.

The ceratopsians were, arguably, among the most successful dinos ever. A fossil-collecting friend once told me that their horns are a very common fossil that almost all collectors possess.

These fossils suggest that we have yet to do much more than scratch the surface in cataloging them. One can't help but wonder how many more odd forms are still lurking out there, again, the Mormons not withstanding.




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filthy:
One can't help but wonder how many more odd forms are still lurking out there, again, the Mormons not withstanding.

No kidding. Hell, mammals pretty much got the green light after the extinction of the dinosaurs, even though they were around sometime before that. Some 150 million years ago. But hey, the dinosaurs were around and were the dominant terrestrial animals for over 150 million years, until around 64 million years ago.

On a side note, for some reason some people like to point out the longevity of the dinosaurs and compare their success to humans. But there were many species of dinosaurs just as there are many species of mammals. I don't know why they do that but the comparison is patently false. We may come and go. But certainly that was also the case with dinosaur species.

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Posted - 09/13/2011 :  07:07:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Falconjudge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Update on Ceratopsians:

Some breeds are now being stricken entirely from the fossil record, with the discovery that some dinosaurs are actually just juvenile or elder stages in the life-cycles of existing dinosaurs. Torosaurus, a triceratops-like dinosaur, is now considered just an aged triceratops, for example.
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Posted - 09/13/2011 :  09:22:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy

Seems they find new species every time we turn around. Here's a couple more, one of them showing evidence of a Beatles hairdo.



I dunno. These were found in Utah, but I don't suppose we can blame it on the Mormons. I'd like to but in the interests of fair play, not to mention scientific accuracy, I'll not.
Paleontologists report discovery of 2 new horned dinosaur species in southern Utah

Scientists said Wednesday they've discovered fossils in the southern Utah desert of two new dinosaur species closely related to the Triceratops, including one with 15 horns on its large head.

The discovery of the new plant-eating species — including Kosmoceratops richardsoni, considered the most ornate-headed dinosaur known to man — was reported Wednesday in the online scientific journal PLoS ONE, produced by the Public Library of Science.

The other dinosaur, which has five horns and is the larger of the two, was dubbed Utahceratops gettyi.

The ceratopsians were, arguably, among the most successful dinos ever. A fossil-collecting friend once told me that their horns are a very common fossil that almost all collectors possess.

These fossils suggest that we have yet to do much more than scratch the surface in cataloging them. One can't help but wonder how many more odd forms are still lurking out there, again, the Mormons not withstanding.





I think it's curious how being ancient ancestors of "Birds", which is also suggested by the beak on this specimen that they claim they were a plant-eating species. I sure there were dinosaurs who were herbivores, carnivores, or omnivores. Just like there are birds now who are of the three categories. Yet here is a drawing that suggests it might not have been exclusively a veggie eater but possibly an omnivore like a chicken but not stated as such.
Yes some birds are strictly herbivores but not all are. They can be any of the three. I wonder how they decide when they make these statements as facts, like here?


Now I'm thinking a carnivore more that the other two. SS

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Edited by - sailingsoul on 09/13/2011 09:31:08
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Falconjudge
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Posted - 09/13/2011 :  09:49:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Falconjudge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I believe they are basing the herbivore assumption on the comparison with the beak of turtles, many terrestrial breeds of which are strictly herbivorous. Also, the body shape suggests a grazing life, with an upright, quadrupedal posture not dissimilar to wildebeests to modern eyes.
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