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filthy
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Posted - 04/16/2011 :  08:41:18  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Seems an evangelical sheriff in Catalanky, a state I rather like, most of the time anyway, is giving the inmates in his jail only the Bible for reading material. No magazines or newspapers, no other books, no correspondence courses. Nothing but King James (the difference between this version and any other escapes me).
WASHINGTON (AFP) The US Department of Justice has filed a complaint against a South Carolina sheriff for letting one of his prisons bar inmates from reading anything but the Bible.

In the complaint filed this week in a Charleston court, the Justice Department said requests by numerous inmates at Berkeley County Detention Center for everything from correspondence course materials and magazines to legal newsletters have been denied by the office of Sheriff H. Wayne DeWitt.

"Indeed, the only book, magazine, newspaper or religious publication that defendants consistently permit prisoners to possess is the Bible," the complaint read.

Prison officers even hand out King James Bibles for free to prisoners, but a Jewish prisoner who asked for a Torah and two Muslim inmates who requested copies of the Koran were told they could only have them if family members personally delivered the holy books to the jail.

When one of the Muslim inmates arranged for his girlfriend to bring a Koran to the prison, the sheriff's office refused to pass it on to the prisoner.

Sweet, eh? Sheriff Joe and this DeWitt pigfucker make a good pair.





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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 04/17/2011 :  11:19:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Solution: If you want to read something other than the Bible. Don't get thrown in jail in Catalanky. I find it somewhat hard to be disgusted by the reading material or lack thereof of some inmates. I have so many other things to be outraged about at the moment.

Edited by - On fire for Christ on 04/17/2011 11:23:54
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 04/17/2011 :  11:52:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Something more important than religious freedom?
Or blatant violation of the constitution?

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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 04/17/2011 :  11:58:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
They have the freedom to not read anything. And The constitution of the United States to me is just a piece of paper in some foreign country. I don't care.

Edited by - On fire for Christ on 04/17/2011 11:59:10
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/17/2011 :  12:15:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

They have the freedom to not read anything.
Yeah, screw rehabilitation and education. It's not like the inmates are going to ever be productive members of society after serving time. So they can either get good with the One True God or just rot in their cells.
And The constitution of the United States to me is just a piece of paper in some foreign country. I don't care.
So if you ever visit the U.S., you won't care if your rights are violated. Good to know.

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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 04/17/2011 :  12:29:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry Dave I'm too busy being outraged at whoever's rights were violated by the crimes those people committed in the first place. Maybe in the holidays, if I have time, I'll be outraged by this, perhaps even enough to post it online somewhere and do nothing else about it.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/17/2011 :  12:35:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

Sorry Dave I'm too busy being outraged at whoever's rights were violated by the crimes those people committed in the first place.
Oh, I see. You can't spare the brain cells to be outraged at both. (How many inmates are there for simple possession, by the way?)
Maybe in the holidays, if I have time, I'll be outraged by this, perhaps even enough to post it online somewhere and do nothing else about it.
Well, considering that's what you're doing for the victims of the North Carolina tornadoes, it fits your M.O. quite well.

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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 04/17/2011 :  12:55:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You can't spare the brain cells to be outraged at both.


No I find it better to focus my rage on a few things at a time, so it does not become too diluted.

Well, considering that's what you're doing for the victims of the North Carolina tornadoes, it fits your M.O. quite well.


Well I could always make some topics about that too, if you think it will help.

Edited by - On fire for Christ on 04/17/2011 13:00:26
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/17/2011 :  13:22:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

Well I could always make some topics about that too, if you think it will help.
No, you've already done nothing but comment about the NC victims on the Internet, and told us that your intention is to do nothing more. You don't need to repeat yourself.

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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 04/17/2011 :  13:25:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
On the contrary, I told you my intention was to pray.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/17/2011 :  13:29:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

On the contrary, I told you my intention was to pray.
Yes, your intention is to do nothing that can make a difference to the victims.

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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 04/17/2011 :  13:38:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ask the victims if they want people to pray for them. Then tell me it's nothing.

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Randy
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Posted - 04/17/2011 :  14:07:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

Ask the victims if they want people to pray for them. Then tell me it's nothing.


How's that saying go....'One pair of working hands does far more than a million (or was it a billion) praying hands.'

One could donate to American Red Cross or the like to go beyond the pray/send-good-mojo or the like.


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sailingsoul
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Posted - 04/18/2011 :  17:21:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I just don't know! I see two conflicts here. I'm not a Theist, maybe a theist here would care to comment, probably not. How can one be sure to know which Deity, God/s or Goddess/es to pray to? Which one is up to the task of actually answering the prayers, in this case? With the list for different religions and beliefs there are thousands of candidates if there's one. Praying to just any false Idol has surly got to be a waste of time. If one prays to that which does not really exist, where could the benefits come from?


Then there's a completely different problem for Christians who pick and choose which one of Jesus' teachings they care to practice today or on any day. In Matthew 6:5-8, Jesus made it clear that he wanted people to pray in private and not be a hypocrite.
Quote link.
"And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men."


The quote above came from the link provided, which is just one of 35+ Bible quotes on this Mathew 6:5 part. I see that everyone of them use the term "hypocrite/s" addressing praying and the publicity of.
I won't say if I'm going to pray for these people but if I were to and pray to Jesus, I would obey Jesus' own words (teachings) and keep it private and not have him see he as a hypocrite. SS

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alienist
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Posted - 04/18/2011 :  18:40:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send alienist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
they have done too many studies abotu prayer and medicine. It turns out, prayer does nothing for patients. In fact cardiac patients did worse if they knew someone was praying for them.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/18/2011 :  23:21:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

Ask the victims if they want people to pray for them. Then tell me it's nothing.
That you and the victims might share a delusion doesn't mean you're accomplishing anything by praying.

Besides, false hope is worse than no hope at all.

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