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ThorGoLucky
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Posted - 10/17/2011 :  11:56:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit ThorGoLucky's Homepage Send ThorGoLucky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh fine.

Funny how I'm the cause of so much strife for not worshiping a magical invisible Jewish zombie that levitated into the sky.
Edited by - ThorGoLucky on 10/17/2011 12:09:23
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justintime
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Posted - 10/18/2011 :  10:08:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send justintime a Private Message  Reply with Quote
When you have 60% of Americans non believers (population of 300 million) compared to 80% of Brits non believers out of a population of 60 million. Add to it the high percentage of drug takers incarcerated in the US. Yes it will show America is the crime center of the world.
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/18/2011 :  10:39:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by justintime

When you have 60% of Americans non believers (population of 300 million) compared to 80% of Brits non believers out of a population of 60 million. Add to it the high percentage of drug takers incarcerated in the US. Yes it will show America is the crime center of the world.


What drugs are you on and why aren't you offering us any?

60% of Americans non-believers?

2008 survey places Judeo-Christian believers as 77.2% of the population. 83% of the population as religious in some way.


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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/18/2011 :  19:14:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by justintime

When you have 60% of Americans non believers (population of 300 million) compared to 80% of Brits non believers out of a population of 60 million.
That's why we compare per capita rates.
Add to it the high percentage of drug takers incarcerated in the US.
Oh, you wanted to include victimless possession as a "crime?" I wouldn't have.
Yes it will show America is the crime center of the world.
And it's much more highly religious. Using your logic, Christianity causes crime.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/18/2011 :  19:15:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

60% of Americans non-believers?
He's probably only including Evangelicals as "believers." A Catholic is just as evil as an atheist, donchaknow?

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sailingsoul
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Posted - 10/19/2011 :  10:48:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by justintime

When you have 60% of Americans non believers (population of 300 million) compared to 80% of Brits non believers out of a population of 60 million. Add to it the high percentage of drug takers incarcerated in the US. Yes it will show America is the crime center of the world.
justintime in what fantasy parallel universe did you get that factoid? You got a reference? That's not possibly true in the USA I live in. Come on, you make this up, don't you?

There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS
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justintime
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Posted - 10/20/2011 :  09:00:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send justintime a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It was quite simple. Only 40% of Americans believe in evolution. 60% do not believe in evolution. So even though statistics show 75% of Americans are Christians. Even here only 40% are die hard Christians (true believers)

All the other stats are from Crime stats, population stats, crime distribution etc. etc.

Edited to correct mistakes pointed out by Kil. My bad!!!
Edited by - justintime on 10/22/2011 09:41:09
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Hal
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Posted - 10/20/2011 :  09:09:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Hal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by justintime

It was quite simple. 40% of Americans do not believe in evolution. So even though statistics show 75% of Americans are Christians. Only 40% are die hard Christians (true believers)

All the other stats are from Crime stats, population stats, crime distribution etc. etc.


What about Scotsmen? Do you have any figures on how many True Scotsmen "believe" in evolution? I bet none of them do! (No True Scotsmen, that is.)

Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King Jr.

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/20/2011 :  09:12:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by justintime

It was quite simple. 40% of Americans do not believe in evolution. So even though statistics show 75% of Americans are Christians. Only 40% are die hard Christians (true believers)

All the other stats are from Crime stats, population stats, crime distribution etc. etc.


Wow.

Stay away from the Kool-Aide, man.

That is seriously fucked up right there.

Jumps right to the no-true-Scottsman fallacy.

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ThorGoLucky
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Posted - 10/20/2011 :  17:57:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit ThorGoLucky's Homepage Send ThorGoLucky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Most people that accept the fact and scientific theory of evolution believe in god(s).
Edited by - ThorGoLucky on 10/20/2011 18:02:35
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podcat
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Posted - 10/22/2011 :  23:15:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send podcat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, but do those people "believe" in evolution?

“In a modern...society, everybody has the absolute right to believe whatever they damn well please, but they don't have the same right to be taken seriously”.

-Barry Williams, co-founder, Australian Skeptics
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justintime
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Posted - 10/24/2011 :  11:45:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send justintime a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There are evolutionist who believe in god. There are evolutionist who believe in a Christian god. Indians believe in a monkey god called Hanuman found in their Epics written around 450BCE. Might even be the source of inspiration for Darwins monkey theory. Don't quote me on that.
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/24/2011 :  12:34:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by justintime

There are evolutionist who believe in god. There are evolutionist who believe in a Christian god. Indians believe in a monkey god called Hanuman found in their Epics written around 450BCE. Might even be the source of inspiration for Darwins monkey theory. Don't quote me on that.


Don't worry. We won't.

Primarily because it is wrong.

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justintime
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Posted - 10/24/2011 :  12:46:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send justintime a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

Originally posted by justintime

There are evolutionist who believe in god. There are evolutionist who believe in a Christian god. Indians believe in a monkey god called Hanuman found in their Epics written around 450BCE. Might even be the source of inspiration for Darwins monkey theory. Don't quote me on that.


Don't worry. We won't.

Primarily because it is wrong.


You must know India is the second fastest emerging economy in the world. With about 1.2 billion population and some of the best research scientist in the world. Americans embrace Deepak Chopra. But wait till you meet the other Indian Monkey believers.
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/24/2011 :  13:15:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by justintime

Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

Originally posted by justintime

There are evolutionist who believe in god. There are evolutionist who believe in a Christian god. Indians believe in a monkey god called Hanuman found in their Epics written around 450BCE. Might even be the source of inspiration for Darwins monkey theory. Don't quote me on that.


Don't worry. We won't.

Primarily because it is wrong.


You must know India is the second fastest emerging economy in the world. With about 1.2 billion population and some of the best research scientist in the world. Americans embrace Deepak Chopra. But wait till you meet the other Indian Monkey believers.


You must know that during Darwin's time, they weren't.

I've met many people from India. Nice folks.

They also have a God called Ganesh who is an elephant. Are you suggesting that they might suggest common decent from elephants as well?

The monkey believers red herring is noted and discarded.

Considering the expedition NEVER MADE LANDFALL IN INDIA, I would rate your suggestion as Creationist uninformed prattle.

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