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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/25/2011 :  20:47:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Cuneiformist

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Perhaps? No.

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Fripp
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Posted - 10/26/2011 :  05:52:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer



Master of Information Services.

Earned it, too. :)



So why was a study of high speed rail in China part of your master's thesis? Because of the realtime communication between rail engine and intelligent track?

"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"

"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?"
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/26/2011 :  06:40:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Fripp

Originally posted by Valiant Dancer



Master of Information Services.

Earned it, too. :)



So why was a study of high speed rail in China part of your master's thesis? Because of the realtime communication between rail engine and intelligent track?


Nope. The faux company was moving production from Hangzhou to Shanghai. For continuity of management, I suggested that many high speed rail options existed between the two points but wondered if the cost per trip would not have to be subsidized by the business. (cheapest ticket was $13.50 American one way)

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Fripp
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Posted - 10/26/2011 :  07:35:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer


Nope. The faux company was moving production from Hangzhou to Shanghai. For continuity of management, I suggested that many high speed rail options existed between the two points but wondered if the cost per trip would not have to be subsidized by the business. (cheapest ticket was $13.50 American one way)


And your conclusion?

From what I understand, high-speed rail is better for regional use instead of trying to supplant air travel for cross-country trips. Quite obviously, the less stops that the rail makes, the faster it goes. But then that necessitates inter-modal transport.

Can't high-speed rail get up to speed faster as well as stop more quickly? Also, Europe removed at-grade crossings, allowing trains to pass over-under roads without lowering speed.

Maglev is even better (with stops-starts), but the capital investment is larger and regular rail can be mixed-use (light-rail, freight, etc).

"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"

"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?"
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/26/2011 :  09:08:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Fripp

Originally posted by Valiant Dancer


Nope. The faux company was moving production from Hangzhou to Shanghai. For continuity of management, I suggested that many high speed rail options existed between the two points but wondered if the cost per trip would not have to be subsidized by the business. (cheapest ticket was $13.50 American one way)


And your conclusion?

From what I understand, high-speed rail is better for regional use instead of trying to supplant air travel for cross-country trips. Quite obviously, the less stops that the rail makes, the faster it goes. But then that necessitates inter-modal transport.

Can't high-speed rail get up to speed faster as well as stop more quickly? Also, Europe removed at-grade crossings, allowing trains to pass over-under roads without lowering speed.

Maglev is even better (with stops-starts), but the capital investment is larger and regular rail can be mixed-use (light-rail, freight, etc).


Conclusion is that it was worth subsidizing it for the first two years of the five year plan and assumed that the managers would be able to relocate in that time or would be making enough to afford the trip each day.

Trip took 45 mins.

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Fripp
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Posted - 10/26/2011 :  09:15:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Groovy.

Too bad such a rational argument would be considered "socialism" here in the good ol' US of A.

"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"

"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?"
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