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djpats
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Posted - 01/29/2012 :  22:50:32  Show Profile  Visit djpats's Homepage Send djpats a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There has been a big thing going around about political correctness. What I have to say about it - it's hypocritical and lopsided. No joke. It's mainly targeted toward Christians. Okay, I'll be straight-up. I'm a Christian. So to be honest, if we're going to all throw a conniption fit about being politically correct, shouldn't the rule be all-inclusive? Meaning that if a Christian is going to get his butt chewed because he put up Nativity scenes around his cubicle, shouldn't the Jew next door get the same treatment for putting up a menorah or hanging a star of David?
To be fair, I have nothing against people of other faiths. But I'm saying that I do have something against being at the butt-end of this hypocrisy. I say everyone either make it a standard, or, more wisely, just wipe out political correctness altogether. It makes no sense.

chefcrsh
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Posted - 01/30/2012 :  00:25:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send chefcrsh a Private Message  Reply with Quote
djpats are you residing in the USA?
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moakley
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Posted - 01/30/2012 :  06:11:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by djpats

There has been a big thing going around about political correctness. ...

A lot of generalizations. Is there anything in particular that you wanted to talk about.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/30/2012 :  08:19:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by djpats

I'm a Christian.
Why?
So to be honest, if we're going to all throw a conniption fit about being politically correct, shouldn't the rule be all-inclusive? Meaning that if a Christian is going to get his butt chewed because he put up Nativity scenes around his cubicle, shouldn't the Jew next door get the same treatment for putting up a menorah or hanging a star of David?
Because you used the word "cubicle," I can only assume that you're talking about an office environment, in which case denying some religious expression while allowing others may be discrimination in violation of the law. In other words, the "political correctness" is already mandated to be "all-inclusive."

Of course, if you could provide more details, that'd be good. Were the nativity scenes (plural?!) obstructive or taking up too much of the employee's time? Was the employee using the nativity scenes to obviously proselytize? Those would be secular reasons for denying one while allowing others, for examples.
To be fair, I have nothing against people of other faiths. But I'm saying that I do have something against being at the butt-end of this hypocrisy. I say everyone either make it a standard, or, more wisely, just wipe out political correctness altogether. It makes no sense.
It doesn't make any sense to you because you didn't know that there are already standards in place, both Federally and in your state. Sometimes, those standards are violated by employers who go too far in trying not to "offend" anyone. The ACLU has been successful in defending peoples' right to reasonable religious expression in the workplace, you might suggest to the employee that he/she contact them.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/30/2012 :  10:15:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
By the way, djpats, that's an interesting Facebook comment you made last night. Was it our little forum that you referenced? Be sure to let us know when you will be unleashing the kraken.

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djpats
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Posted - 01/30/2012 :  21:33:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit djpats's Homepage Send djpats a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

By the way, djpats, that's an interesting Facebook comment you made last night. Was it our little forum that you referenced? Be sure to let us know when you will be unleashing the kraken.


My apologies Dave, I'm a controversy junkie and to be honest yes the post was about the forum. If it came off as rude I really wasn't trying to do that.
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djpats
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USA
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Posted - 01/30/2012 :  21:38:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit djpats's Homepage Send djpats a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And fair enough, to everyone. I suppose I should have been more specific. The word "scenes" was a typo, I meant "scene". The deal was that my office mate wasn't proseletyzing with his nativity scene, but when that was put up he got in trouble because it could possibly offend someone, and my point was that I'd be okay with that reprimand (not really) had the Jewish guy next to him been required to take down his menorah.
Once again with the facebook thing, my friend made the kraken comment and I thought it was HILARIOUS but that doesn't mean I'm intending to attack members of this forum.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/31/2012 :  08:13:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by djpats

The deal was that my office mate wasn't proseletyzing with his nativity scene, but when that was put up he got in trouble because it could possibly offend someone, and my point was that I'd be okay with that reprimand (not really) had the Jewish guy next to him been required to take down his menorah.
Seriously: suggest to your office mate that he contact the state branch of the ACLU.
Once again with the facebook thing, my friend made the kraken comment and I thought it was HILARIOUS but that doesn't mean I'm intending to attack members of this forum.
I didn't read it that way (and perhaps my comment needed a winky-icon). I took it to mean that your friend thinks that you have some killer argument for use against skeptics. If so, I'm dying to hear it.

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