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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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 Posted - 10/09/2012 : 08:51:24
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Ancient Aliens Debunked by Biblical literalist
So here's the deal. The science was apparently pretty good and the series on the History Channel has been taken to task for making claims that lack any support, when the evidence that they present is looked it.
Doubtful News:
Many paranormal and mysterious news websites have been abuzz about the free and available documentary called “Ancient Aliens Debunked” by Chris White which rips down the History Channel show “Ancient Aliens” that gives credence to unsupported speculation about aliens visiting earth. (You can safely dump the whole thing into the pseudoscience bin.) This new documentary picks at each of the show’s topics. |
The problem kicks in durring the last hour when the Christian view of the flood and the tower of babel is introduced without the same kind of scrutiny. Chris White is a biblical literalist.
Doubtful News asks:
Should we be promoting White’s documentary if he certainly fails to apply the same rigor to all his other beliefs? Some people do seem to be annoyed that the rationality theme of the movie goes off the rails. There is much to be said for taking the piece on its own merits, not on the personal beliefs of the person who made it.
A commenter on the JREF forum had an excellent suggestion, we should certainly set this documentary in context. Show how evidence is correctly used and compelling arguments are presented. However, we can refute the Flood Theory and nephalim arguments using the same high standards. This is the proper way to critical review such a piece. |
There is much more at the link, including a link to the movie and to Jason Colavito's Reviewing "Ancient Aliens Debunked", which a pretty good review with this noted near the end of the review:
| White's purpose is to challenge the claims presented on Ancient Aliens, not the people, but a bit of sociology would be helpful in placing this in context. From a film perspective, a bit of background on the filmmaker--who narrates in the first person--would have been helpful. It isn't clear until near the end that he has something of a dog in this fight. White is a Christian (which I know because he told me so), and he has a Biblical perspective that leads him to propose, for example, that the flood of Noah really happened and that global myths are connected through one exceedingly ancient source (a la the Tower of Babel). This doesn't significantly impact the good work he does in his film (it's a very minor part of the story), but it would have been helpful to know two hours or so earlier. |
So what we have here is a credible debunking followed by some not so credible stuff of a Christian fundamentalist kind.
I haven't seen the movie yet and will certainly watch it.
So what do you think?
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On fire for Christ
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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Posted - 10/21/2012 : 11:13:26 [Permalink]
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| It has blown my mind that this show even makes it on TV. The History Channel sold its soul to the ratings devil a long time ago and this is a wonderful example of it. |
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the_ignored
SFN Addict
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Posted - 10/21/2012 : 13:30:12 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
...SNIP....
So what do you think?
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I think this is an example of the creationist thinking where they claim that the bible is an antidote to superstition.
That, however gets shot down not only by the article you posted, but by simple observation of their beliefs themselves.
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
9687 Posts |
Posted - 10/22/2012 : 12:03:04 [Permalink]
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| When can you trust a Centauri to tell the truth anyway? |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 10/22/2012 : 20:49:24 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
When can you trust a Centauri to tell the truth anyway? |
Well, I got that reference. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 10/23/2012 : 06:34:26 [Permalink]
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I knew you would. How about the rest? The guy's hairstyle in the picture is a clue.
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Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 10/23/2012 : 06:47:35 [Permalink]
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| Well Centauris are'nt good for much, but they sure can identify alien species better than most, I'm just saying. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 10/27/2012 : 17:16:59 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
I knew you would. How about the rest? The guy's hairstyle in the picture is a clue.
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Bastards and their asteroid bombardment weapons....
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Doctor X
Voluntary Exile
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Posted - 10/27/2012 : 17:42:10 [Permalink]
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