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Randy
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Posted - 02/12/2013 :  15:40:22  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message  Reply with Quote

How'd the saying go?.....I'd like to go to church if
it wasn't so goddamn religious.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/atheist-church-huge-success-london-article-1.1257274

"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
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sailingsoul
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Posted - 02/13/2013 :  05:48:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is an example of throwing some (bull) shit on a wall and seeing what sticks. Atheists don't go to church unless they're in the closet. Those who aren't, go to large hotels and gather in ballrooms. Which cost them hundreds of dollars.

Let's fact it, there are some very confused people out there. I've seen dogs eat shit and I say this is a church when shit is food. Never eat shit is one rule to live by.

There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS
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Randy
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Posted - 02/13/2013 :  17:56:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What?!
This is a simple social gathering. A no-god zone get together. What is wrong with getting together with like minded people, as in this Skeptic's message board?

"We are all connected; to each other biologically, to the earth chemically, to the rest of the universe atomically."

"So you're made of detritus [from exploded stars]. Get over it. Or better yet, celebrate it. After all, what nobler thought can one cherish than that the universe lives within us all?"
-Neil DeGrasse Tyson
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ThorGoLucky
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Posted - 02/13/2013 :  19:45:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit ThorGoLucky's Homepage Send ThorGoLucky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Randy, I think SS's point is that gathering of like-minded folks is fine, just don't call it what it isn't.
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sailingsoul
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Posted - 02/16/2013 :  06:56:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Bingo, along with calling it a "RELIGION!".

I see going to church a joke, so because they're gathering in a church to hear some comedians talk, I can also see where theists could confuse that as being a religion.

Atheism will be a religion when staying home and not going camping becomes an outdoor activity or staying in bed on Sunday mornings screaming "Oh God!" a religious experience. Some people have a hard time keeping reality straight, with all the deceiving going on outside and inside of churches.

There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 02/18/2013 :  06:29:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by sailingsoul

Bingo, along with calling it a "RELIGION!".

I see going to church a joke, so because they're gathering in a church to hear some comedians talk, I can also see where theists could confuse that as being a religion.

Atheism will be a religion when staying home and not going camping becomes an outdoor activity or staying in bed on Sunday mornings screaming "Oh God!" a religious experience. Some people have a hard time keeping reality straight, with all the deceiving going on outside and inside of churches.


Soooo..... Calling it Our Lady of the Inside Straight, having a $5 cover, and $100 limits on the tables wasn't that much of a giveaway?

I mean the Bingo caller podium.... I mean pulpit is near the Bingo tables.

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sailingsoul
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Posted - 02/18/2013 :  13:53:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer



Soooo..... Calling it Our Lady of the Inside Straight, having a $5 cover, and $100 limits on the tables wasn't that much of a giveaway?

I mean the Bingo caller podium.... I mean pulpit is near the Bingo tables.
"Our Lady of the Inside Straight" that's funny.

I don't see anything wrong with the gathering in and of itself. People are by nature animals who partake in social gatherings for all sorts of reasons. They provide a sense of belonging. The two promoters chose to have this gathering in a "church" of sorts and chose Sunday to have it. How nice but I'll pass!

I only find this possibly problematic in that some Theists say that not believing in God is a religion and will take this as some kind of proof. Which it is not. I heard that claim from Theists before, that Atheism is a religion, before this came up or ever occurred. For Theists who who want to believe Atheism is a religion, this kind of thing happening in a church, on Sunday, may be taken as conformation in their mind of one more bullshit belief that gives them comfort to believe in. Like believing the banana is proof of intelligent design AND God . Theist do not require their beliefs make sense or have any foundation in truth whatsoever. All they require is faith to believe in anything, no matter how baseless. As with Mormon' protective underwear. Truthfulness, evidence or a foundation in reality means nothing and counts for nothing if it conflicts with what they assert to believe. I've been to skeptic functions, even in a hotel/casino but I'm not likely to go to a church, on Sunday to enjoy social interaction with other Atheists. Obviously others will and have a good time doing so. Good for them, I have no objections with others doing it.

There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 02/19/2013 :  06:51:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by sailingsoul

Originally posted by Valiant Dancer



Soooo..... Calling it Our Lady of the Inside Straight, having a $5 cover, and $100 limits on the tables wasn't that much of a giveaway?

I mean the Bingo caller podium.... I mean pulpit is near the Bingo tables.
"Our Lady of the Inside Straight" that's funny.

I don't see anything wrong with the gathering in and of itself. People are by nature animals who partake in social gatherings for all sorts of reasons. They provide a sense of belonging. The two promoters chose to have this gathering in a "church" of sorts and chose Sunday to have it. How nice but I'll pass!


Humans, being social pack animals, do need interaction. I suppose that they selected a church was due to availability (added bonus, theists rarely picket other church buildings) and the time when most troublesome theists are busy at worship service. (Lets be blunt here. We are talking about extremist evangelistic Christendom, not any other religious subsect.)


I only find this possibly problematic in that some Theists say that not believing in God is a religion and will take this as some kind of proof. Which it is not.


These are the same ones who would call such a meeting in a private home or hall a prayer meeting. What's the damage?


I heard that claim from Theists before, that Atheism is a religion, before this came up or ever occurred. For Theists who who want to believe Atheism is a religion, this kind of thing happening in a church, on Sunday, may be taken as conformation in their mind of one more bullshit belief that gives them comfort to believe in. Like believing the banana is proof of intelligent design AND God .


Individuals who believe ardently that atheism is a religion (I have asked these folks if bald is a hair color. some of them have actually said yes.) weren't going to be convinced otherwise. How does how you are precieved by a band of nutters impact who you are and how you are precieved by the general public?


Theist do not require their beliefs make sense or have any foundation in truth whatsoever. All they require is faith to believe in anything, no matter how baseless. As with Mormon' protective underwear. Truthfulness, evidence or a foundation in reality means nothing and counts for nothing if it conflicts with what they assert to believe. I've been to skeptic functions, even in a hotel/casino but I'm not likely to go to a church, on Sunday to enjoy social interaction with other Atheists. Obviously others will and have a good time doing so. Good for them, I have no objections with others doing it.


So. This is about the location and how it relates to your perception of the venue. I can respect that.

It really doesn't hold the same bugaboo for me. I've seen churches turned in to large luxury homes. Occassionally, they are turned into libraries. Congregations in small towns do go out of business and the buildings re-purposed. I suppose thats why I really don't attach any significance to a church building.

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