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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 01/10/2016 :  09:18:56  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To be quite honest, the left is so wishy-washy they will never put the hammer down on anyone or anything. Donald Trump is truly an idiotic caricature of a poltiician, and if he was a dictator it would be a disaster, but if he did come to power the amount of damage he could do would be limited by bureaucracy. The mere act of him being voted in might make the left grow some balls, or ovaries as it were.

Boron10
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Posted - 01/10/2016 :  12:07:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Boron10 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

To be quite honest, the left is so wishy-washy they will never put the hammer down on anyone or anything. Donald Trump is truly an idiotic caricature of a poltiician, and if he was a dictator it would be a disaster, but if he did come to power the amount of damage he could do would be limited by bureaucracy. The mere act of him being voted in might make the left grow some balls, or ovaries as it were.
That's what most of us thought about President George W. Bush, but he destroyed the budget surplus handed him by President Clinton, invaded a foreign country on flimsy (at best!) evidence, and removed funding from struggling schools with No Child Left Behind.

I am, quite frankly, terrified.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/10/2016 :  21:04:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

To be quite honest, the left is so wishy-washy they will never put the hammer down on anyone or anything.
Don't blame "the left." The head honchos of the Democratic party are only slightly left-of-center, at best. Look at the huge hand-out to corporations that is "Obamacare." To the rest of the world, we have a right-wing party, and a radical right-wing party.

People in the U.S. have been so terrified by terms like "socialism" that truly left parties get equated with the worst of communism, and so can't even get a toe in the door of American politics.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/16/2016 :  21:26:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think Trump is incapable of getting anything right. Just more evidence that the US government shouldn't be "run like a business," because if arguably successful businessmen are this clueless about foreign policy, we'd be completely doomed if they started actually governing.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/18/2016 :  21:07:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good grief: now he thinks he can bring a "real" lawsuit over Cruz' eligibility to be president.

No, Trump, you can't.

(By the way, the idea that "Democrats" would sue over Cruz' eligibility is as ludicrous as the idea that "Republicans" sued over Obama's eligibility: maybe a handful of them did, but they were all laughed out of court - and sometimes even sanctioned.)

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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/23/2016 :  17:02:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I could stand in the middle of 5th Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters.

- Donald Trump
Which means he knows his supporters are fanatical demagogues, and not thoughtful voters concerned about particular issues.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 01/29/2016 :  20:48:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You Want to Move to Canada if Trump Wins?
Dear desperately sycophantic American liberal friend/relative/friend of friend/relative of relative,

In light of recent indices that your next elected leader may in fact be a man who makes George W. Bush look like a governmental visionary, I have recently been deluged with requests to move to/seek temporary asylum in/camp briefly at my unfinished Canadian basement.

Please know, my new, terrified horde of American best-friends-I-haven’t-met-yet, that I am processing your applications as quickly as I possibly can. Right now, my two grown children are in my unfinished basement, sorting through the mounting stack of letters, emails, Facebook friend requests, half-used Starbucks cards, and cash inducements you have been sending me in your efforts to reserve your small slice of my Glittering Northern Paradise (unfinished basement)...
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Dave W.
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Posted - 02/14/2016 :  16:55:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Donald Trump finally went too far for Republicans:
By Trump standards — this is a man, after all, who claims he can make Mexico pay for the construction of thousands of miles of border wall — these arguments are tame. Indeed, almost banal. For months now, Republicans have wondered how Trump could be winning by claiming up was down. But this was exactly how they won in their mid-aughts heyday — slamming decorated war hero John Kerry for cowardice, claiming to have kept the country safe while presiding over the worst terrorist attack in American history, and responding by invading an unrelated country in order to dismantle a nuclear weapons program that didn't exist.

When Trump contradicted the Republican Party's most cherished form of up-is-downism, the party establishment finally got its groove back and handed him arguably his worst evening of the entire campaign. But they also proved to everyone else that pointing out that Bush was in office on 9/11 is a red line for the GOP establishment in a way that concocting a story about Jersey City Muslims celebrating the attacks wasn't.
Trump got booed by the Republican audience for reminding everyone that Bush was in charge on 9/11, and that we stormed into Iraq without solid evidence.

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Kil
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USA
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Posted - 02/14/2016 :  18:25:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah. But you know... Everything that Trump does gets him in the news and he comes out the winner. Don't bet that this has done him in. He has been too far for regular Republicans almost since he declared. His appeal isn't to those people and it never has been. The fact that he struck a nerve will probably make his supporters happy.

By the way. I don't think Trump even cares about what's true and what isn't. He got one right, but I don't think getting it right was the reason for his attack on Bush. Watching heads explode was the reason, I suspect.

I watched the debate. I thought it was funny. It was kinda like watching professional wrestlers talking about what they will do to the other guy, whether it was the guy standing next to them or Hillary. (For some reason, Bernie isn't on their radar yet.)

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Dave W.
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Posted - 02/14/2016 :  21:36:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

(For some reason, Bernie isn't on their radar yet.)
Because odds are the socialist won't be the Democratic candidate in the general election. And if he is, all the Repubs need to do is loudly conflate democratic socialism with the worst of communism over and over, which is easy and cheap. So if they've going to spend any effort shitting on Democrats right now instead of going after each other, the smart money is to crap all over Clinton.

'Course, now that Scalia's dead, they get to also crow about how horrible it'll be when Clinton nominates Barack Obama to the SCOTUS. It's a double-whammy. They've got no clue as to what a commie judge looks like, so they can't point directly to the evil Bernie might do to the Court.

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Kil
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USA
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Posted - 02/14/2016 :  23:08:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.
'Course, now that Scalia's dead, they get to also crow about how horrible it'll be when Clinton nominates Barack Obama to the SCOTUS. It's a double-whammy. They've got no clue as to what a commie judge looks like, so they can't point directly to the evil Bernie might do to the Court.


Well... I think they are going to take a bruising over Scalia's death. Obama has already said he will nominate someone, and McConnell has said he will block any nomination by Obama. But see, the constitution is clear on that one and they would be leaving the court short for almost a year, which is longer than it's ever taken to fill the position. Plus, any 4/4 vote means that the appellate court's ruling will stand. And, they will once again look like obstructionists during an election year. This isn't going to be pretty for them if they try to go through with blocking any nomination. And there is no way it won't look like a partisan maneuver based largely on speculation. They will be hit hard by the dems pointing out their obligation to uphold the constitution which they swore to do when they took their oath of office. I think they're kinda screwed.

Come to think of it, they're screwed either way.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 02/14/2016 :  23:42:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The sad part of the Constitution is that there's isn't any time limit on the "advice and consent" the Senate is supposed to provide on SCOTUS nominations. Currently, SCOTUS can conduct its business with as few as six justices. The odds that the Republicans will stonewall long enough for three more justices to die or retire are slim to none. They might take some hits on current cases for a year or two or five while waiting for a conservative President, but I bet that pales in comparison to the idea of a liberal justice sitting on the bench for 25+ years.

And the answer to charges of obstructionism are the same as they've been throughout Obama's presidency: he didn't compromise and nominate someone Repubs could possibly agree with. In other words (according to them), it's Obama who is obstructing the proper workings of government. Sure, the American public as a whole didn't buy that excuse when they shut the government down a few years ago, but Senators don't stay in office because of general elections - they only need to worry about their home-state voters and big-money donors.

The worst part of McConnell's statement is that SCOTUS justices are appointed in order to avoid the politics of the American people he thinks should basically have a vote on them. McConnell is signalling to anyone who's aware of the justification of an appointed judiciary that he hasn't read the Federalist papers which explain all this in detail. People who claim to "love" the Constitution but who clearly don't understand it really tick me off.

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Kil
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Posted - 02/15/2016 :  09:55:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Odds are that Obama will choose a moderate, left leaning person like Sri Srinivasan.

The gamble for the GOP is if they wait, they could end up with a much more liberal judge. And the odds are not in their favor for waiting.

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sailingsoul
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Posted - 02/17/2016 :  18:12:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

And the odds are not in their favor for waiting.
They got to be convinced they are winning the White House this time so based on that, I can't imagine many repub' agreeing with not waiting.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 03/04/2016 :  11:07:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Michael Shermer Supports Trump, Because Skepticism is a Joke:
Michael Shermer, famed skeptic and alleged creep, is apparently supporting Donald Trump during this year’s Presidential Election...

...He also called Trump’s braggadocio and speaking style, “kind of charming and amusing” and said it’s good that Trump is “not very religious.” Great! Trump’s Islamophobia will fit right in with organized atheism’s. Maybe Trump can speak at the next Reason Rally.

All of this is literally only surprising if you haven’t been paying attention to what a shitshow organized skepticism is. It makes perfect sense that someone with Shermer’s reputation would support the carrot-colored man-baby who thinks it’s okay to call Rosie O’Donnell a “fat pig” and can’t handle the concept that women have to use the restroom. R.I.P., what’s left of organized skepticism!
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Kil
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Posted - 03/04/2016 :  18:41:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well... Shermer walked it back a lot.

Michael Shermer: I’m Not Endorsing Donald Trump
Hemant Mehta: Yesterday, I posted about how it puzzled me that Michael Shermer, publisher of Skeptic magazine, would support Donald Trump. He seemed to say as much last month during an interview with KCRW, an NPR affiliate in California.

He was introduced as a Trump supporter and said nothing to counter that, and then he gave reasons for why he liked the candidate. It wasn’t quite an endorsement, but that seemed like a distinction without a difference. Other websites certainly ran with it.

But was the characterization accurate?
Read on.

The thing is, why did Shermer go there at all? Why did he accept that particular invitation by Warren Olney, who I agree is one of the fairest interviewers on radio. I've enjoyed his show for many years.

And speaking of libertarians:

WHY PENN JILLETTE IS TERRIFIED OF A PRESIDENT TRUMP

“My friend Christopher Hitchens wrote a book called No One Left to Lie To about the Clintons,” Jillette says. “I have written and spoken and joked with friends the meanest, cruelest, most hateful things that could ever been said by me, have been said about the Clintons. I loathe them. I disagree with Hillary Clinton on just about everything there is to disagree with a person about. If it comes down to Trump and Hillary, I will put a Hillary Clinton sticker on my fucking car.”

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