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Tim
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USA
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 Posted - 06/04/2003 : 02:10:31 [Permalink]
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Val, you're absolutely correct. However, my 'opinion' is that children are not born with a 'default' knowledge of anything other than the basics such as mother and various survival needs. Even many of these may be rapidly learned behavior.
I do realize that the precise meaning of the word 'atheism' is the absence of a theology. However, western society, right or wrong, generally veiws the word as a disbelief in God. Either way, knowledge of a theology is required in the former, and knowledge of a god is required in the latter. Both, I think, are learned.
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jmcginn
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 06/04/2003 : 07:10:01 [Permalink]
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I do realize that the precise meaning of the word 'atheism' is the absence of a theology. However, western society, right or wrong, generally veiws the word as a disbelief in God. Either way, knowledge of a theology is required in the former, and knowledge of a god is required in the latter. Both, I think, are learned.
Tim I understand where you are coming from I think, however despite how western society defines atheism, what would you call someone who has no knowledge or concept of theology or gods such as newborn?
By the strict literal definition atheist fits, but maybe not the new social definition as you define it. Agnostic does not fit by the strict literal definition since it does require knowledge of the concepts of theology, but maybe the social definition fits in this case. |
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Psi Kick
New Member
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Posted - 06/07/2003 : 13:28:39 [Permalink]
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God is your potential.
You have to believe it to be seen. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 06/07/2003 : 22:56:50 [Permalink]
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Psi Kick wrote:quote:
You have to believe it to be seen.
What, precisely, does this mean? I've heard and understand "you have to see it to belive it," and I can wrap my head around "you have to believe it to see it," but "you have to believe it to be seen?" What the heck does that mean, in practical, everyday terms? I certainly don't need to believe in God, for example, to be seen by other mortals here on Earth - they get out of my way just fine, for the most part. In not believing (what, precisely?), how is it - exactly - that I am invisible? |
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Donnie B.
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 06/19/2003 : 10:36:55 [Permalink]
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Maybe he means you have to believe in God to reach your full potential... but I may be trying to infer meaning where none exists  |
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ConsequentAtheist
SFN Regular
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Posted - 06/19/2003 : 17:27:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Donnie B.
Maybe he means you have to believe in God to reach your full potential... but I may be trying to infer meaning where none exists
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For the philosophical naturalist, the rejection of supernaturalism is a case of "death by a thousand cuts." -- Barbara Forrest, Ph.D. |
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Boron10
Religion Moderator
USA
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Posted - 06/19/2003 : 19:17:41 [Permalink]
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