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BigPapaSmurf
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 Posted - 11/04/2004 : 06:31:01
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http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/11/02/brain.dish/index.html
Hows that for AI... scary potential.
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"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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tomk80
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Netherlands
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Posted - 11/04/2004 : 06:35:34 [Permalink]
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| cool, definitely very cool. I'm gonna buy me some rats and some electrodes! |
Tom
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astropin
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 11/04/2004 : 10:39:11 [Permalink]
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| Go Science Go! |
I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.
You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.
Atheism:
The result of an unbiased and rational search for the truth.
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 11/04/2004 : 10:51:49 [Permalink]
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| Perhaps I'd just order that allergenic-free cat instead. |
Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
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Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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Ricky
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furshur
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USA
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Posted - 11/04/2004 : 12:28:26 [Permalink]
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| I am not very knowledgable on this, so I will ask a dumb question: How do you keep the neurons 'alive'? |
If I knew then what I know now then I would know more now than I know. |
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/04/2004 : 13:08:24 [Permalink]
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| good question...that I cant answer, They can grow skin in a petrie dish so I guess its not that hard. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Plyss
Skeptic Friend
Netherlands
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Posted - 11/04/2004 : 15:14:22 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by furshur
I am not very knowledgable on this, so I will ask a dumb question: How do you keep the neurons 'alive'?
If it's anything like culturing other cells on petri dishes it's largely a matter of adding a solution of proper metabolites to it every once in a while. Aging of the cells and accumulation of toxins will likely be a problem soon though.
Does anyone know if this research is going to be published in a peer-reviewed journal soon, because it's absolutely fascinating. |
Miss Tick sniffed. 'You could say this piece of advice is pricesless', she said. 'Are you listening?'
'Yes' said Tiffany.
'Good now...If you trust in yourself.."
'Yes..?'
'..and believe in your dreams...'
'yes?'
'...and follow your star..' Miss Tick went on.
'Yes?'
'You'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy. Goodbye.' |
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Plyss
Skeptic Friend
Netherlands
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Posted - 11/04/2004 : 15:19:45 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Plyss
quote:
Originally posted by furshur
I am not very knowledgable on this, so I will ask a dumb question: How do you keep the neurons 'alive'?
If it's anything like culturing other cells on petri dishes it's largely a matter of adding a solution of proper metabolites to it every once in a while. Aging of the cells and accumulation of toxins will likely be a problem soon though.
Hmm, apparently i was wrong:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=11564520
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We surmounted survival problems by using culture dish lids that form a gas-tight seal, and incorporate a transparent hydrophobic membrane (fluorinated ethylene-propylene) that is selectively permeable to oxygen (O(2)) and carbon dioxide (CO(2)), and relatively impermeable to water vapor. This prevents contamination and greatly reduces evaporation, allowing the use of a non-humidified incubator. We have employed this technique to grow dissociated cortical cultures from rat embryos on multi-electrode arrays. After more than a year in culture, the neurons still exhibit robust spontaneous electrical activity.
great stuff, i wish i had the time to delve into it more deeply. |
Miss Tick sniffed. 'You could say this piece of advice is pricesless', she said. 'Are you listening?'
'Yes' said Tiffany.
'Good now...If you trust in yourself.."
'Yes..?'
'..and believe in your dreams...'
'yes?'
'...and follow your star..' Miss Tick went on.
'Yes?'
'You'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy. Goodbye.' |
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 11/05/2004 : 06:02:47 [Permalink]
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| I think they just used the brain as an intermediary for the control signals, It didnt fly itself. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 11/05/2004 : 07:30:38 [Permalink]
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That is so bloody cool.
And people ask me why I love science.  |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
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