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Siberia
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Brazil
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 Posted - 03/08/2007 : 15:10:36
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... after the U.S. president decided to visit my country, inspiring several protests against him in several cities. Of course, said protests also involve politics not connected with the United States at all.
One such protest is very close to my place, and it's raging since 4pm (it's 7pm now). Apparently 3000 people appeared in this protest. Most of them are women and they are protesting not only against him, but for women's right and "for the Iraqi women" (the logic fails me). I've links but they're in portuguese, so it doesn't help.
image from Folha de São Paulo.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 03/08/2007 : 15:48:40 [Permalink]
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That's a lot of people. It is funny how protests tend to get all mixed up, with everyone who has an issue (or thinks they do) using any big protest like a Swiss Army knife. I hope Bush brings back some Brazilian ethanol. Better yet, I hope he doesn't make it back.
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 03/09/2007 : 04:00:08 [Permalink]
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Well we have killed a lot of Iraqi civilians. Maybe that's what they are upset about. But I wonder now, do you have much of a Muslim population there?
Bush has made us look really bad everywhere, but he didn't start the bad reputation, it began long ago. I was thinking of something like if you abuse your kids, when they grow up you'll be sorry. We supported many terrible regimes in Central and South America over the last century. And some of those countries are standing up now.
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/09/2007 : 04:22:23 [Permalink]
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Siberia wrote: quote:
Most of them are women and they are protesting not only against him, but for women's right and "for the Iraqi women" (the logic fails me).
I'm betting that is because under Hussein women actually have quite a few institutionalized rights that since his fall they have lost and now have to fight to get back with the new government. While Hussein did run a dictatorship, it was secular, and the religious fanatics on both sides of Islam are both extremely oppressive of women.
Here's an article about this issue from Human Rights Watch: http://www.hrw.org/backgrounder/wrd/iraq-women.htm |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 03/09/2007 : 06:39:48 [Permalink]
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Heh, it gets better: quote:
Priests to Purify Site After Bush Visit
By JUAN CARLOS LLORCA
Posted: Today at 12:22 a.m.
GUATEMALA CITY — Mayan priests will purify a sacred archaeological site to eliminate "bad spirits" after President Bush visits next week, an official with close ties to the group said Thursday.
"That a person like (Bush), with the persecution of our migrant brothers in the United States, with the wars he has provoked, is going to walk in our sacred lands, is an offense for the Mayan people and their culture," Juan Tiney, the director of a Mayan nongovernmental organization with close ties to Mayan religious and political leaders, said Thursday.
Maybe we could hire a couple of those priest fellows to go through the White House after Bush has vacated it. It will probably need to be throughly exorcised of his demonic, spiritual essence by that time.
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 03/09/2007 : 09:12:53 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by beskeptigal
Well we have killed a lot of Iraqi civilians. Maybe that's what they are upset about. But I wonder now, do you have much of a Muslim population there?
That occurred to me later last night. Indeed we have a vast Muslim population, especially in my state, including refugees from Iraq (I know a few). Back when the war began, the media was keen to focus on these very families and how they were taking it.
And thanks to Bush, I took 45 minutes to get home, when the norm is 10 minutes, because he couldn't go in a stupid helicopter  Police everywhere to keep him from being randomly killed (and the rest of us as a consequence - never underestimate the power of stupid people). |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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| Edited by - Siberia on 03/09/2007 10:20:45 |
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 03/10/2007 : 00:21:27 [Permalink]
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Unless that consequence was the result of Cheney taking over, were you thinking we'd attack Brazil or your police would mow down the crowd?
Don't you love the BS Bush spews wherever he goes? He wants to help the poor now. |
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 03/10/2007 : 08:30:52 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by beskeptigal
Unless that consequence was the result of Cheney taking over, were you thinking we'd attack Brazil or your police would mow down the crowd?
Don't you love the BS Bush spews wherever he goes? He wants to help the poor now.
The police would mow down the crowd to save our collective asses, most likely. |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 03/11/2007 : 03:25:44 [Permalink]
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Whoa! That's not good.  |
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 03/11/2007 : 06:54:19 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by beskeptigal
Whoa! That's not good.
In the occasion of being invaded by the U.S., we'd without a doubt lose, terribly - because our military is a joke. We're a peaceful country (when it comes to war, that is; we've lots of inbred violence to keep us busy).
It even says so in our constitution:
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the Brazilian Constitution sez:
Art. 4th: The Federative Republic of Brazil is guided in its international relations by the following principles:
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IV - non-intervention;
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VI - defense of peace
V - pacific resolution to conflicts
We're unprepared. That's why Bush was followed around by the Army (and even airforce), so as to guarantee nobody tried anything funny (as if we would anyway - we aren't that type of people; if he was randomly shot it would probably be an accident) and ended having us all killed.
Those protests met the police, too, but that's because the crowd was getting violent.
Or, of course, I might have misinterpreted (I so mispelled that) your question entirely  |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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Brazilians protesting against Bush...
