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Orwellingly Yurz
SFN Regular

USA
529 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2007 :  15:56:49  Show Profile Send Orwellingly Yurz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
YO:

If it weren't for the wintry, snowy weather at this Virginia locale, one might mistake it for Baghdad Tech. The shooter should've waited till Hitler's birthday, which is Friday: just about Waco Day in America (maybe it should be Wacko Day). Then there's little Timmy pullin' his infamous celebratory pranks in OKC. And how can we forget Columbine, also on Hitler's BD, April 20th? If I were writing copy for a commercial for this, we'd start off with: "It's April Madness now at Billy Bob's Gun Shop in suburban.....etc."

Cretins like this should be on the muzzle end of a weapon in Iraq---doing their freakin' duty.

Audio/video is link: http://www.cnn.com/

OY, in the worst vay!!!

Sorry, but this updated headline off CNN must be posted here and now: "Killer reportedly dressed in Boy Scout-type outfit"

I ask you, how sick can it get? OY!

"The modern conservative...is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy. That is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
--John Kenneth Galbraith

If dogs run free
Then what must be,
Must be...
And that is all
--Bob Dylan

The neo-cons have gotten welfare for themselves down to a fine art.
--me

"The meek shall inherit the earth, but not the mineral rights."
--J. Paul Getty

"The great thing about Art isn't what it give us, but what we become through it."
--Oscar Wilde

"We have Art in order not to die of life."
--Albert Camus

"I cling like a miser to the freedom I lose when surrounded by an abundance of things."
--Albert Camus

"Experience is the name so many people give to their mistakes."
--Oscar Wilde

Edited by - Orwellingly Yurz on 04/16/2007 17:49:53

the_ignored
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2557 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2007 :  16:52:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And of course, the cretins at Answers in Genesis have to put in their two cents:
quote:
It's also important to understand a concept that AiG presents in the book How Could a Loving God … ? We read there:

Only the person who believes in God has a basis to make moral judgments to determine what is “good” and what is “bad.” Those who claim God does not exist have absolutely no authority upon which to call something right or wrong. If God doesn't exist, who can objectively define what is good and what is bad? What basis could there be to make such judgments? The atheist has no basis upon which to call anything good or bad. They can talk about good and bad, and right and wrong—but it's all relative, it's all arbitrary. What's “good” in one person's mind might be completely “bad” in another's.
Of course, from a biblical perspective, God must have morally good and just reasons as to why He allows bad things to happen. For instance, Christ's death on the Cross was an evil event, but God allowed this for a wonderful purpose: to redeem sinful human beings.



Gotta love that arrogance; only xians like them can judge as to whether something is "good" or "evil"...yet when one points out the atrocities of the OT god in killing off babies and pregnant women, people like these defend those actions!

Absolute morality my ass!

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.
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R.Wreck
SFN Regular

USA
1191 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2007 :  17:11:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
First and foremost, I hope Ricky is OK.

Second and third, Ken Ham is completely insane.

The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley

The Cattle Prod of Enlightened Compassion
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JohnOAS
SFN Regular

Australia
800 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2007 :  17:17:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit JohnOAS's Homepage Send JohnOAS a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by R.Wreck

First and foremost, I hope Ricky is OK.


Yeah I PM'ed him earlier. He was showing as on-line at the time.

My US geography is pretty atrocious at the best of times, but I thought Ricky was in that area. Does anyone know where he attends school? I seriously hope the concern proves to be unfounded.

John's just this guy, you know.
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Orwellingly Yurz
SFN Regular

USA
529 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2007 :  17:38:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Orwellingly Yurz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
YO! In response to The_Ignored, above, in this thread: Well, I'm certainly not going to ignore you and your response to my rant about wackos who like to put bullets in innocent folks because the gun person is having a bad hair day or caught his lover or spouse humping another.

What never ceases to amaze about the other cretins, to which you refer in this thing called "AIG," is, in their defining of god or God---or however one is to spell it---the low class (read it as: supernatural sky god or cosmic peeping Tom) way they construct Him or Her or It in their "minds." If there is One, or a committee of Them........ They/It/He/She are/is a whole lot more complex and significant than these jerk-offs are opining in their arrogant myopia. Need I say also that in their stupidity they are also dangerous? Has anyone taken a stroll on a Baghdad street lately besides John McCain and an accompanying small battalion of armed Blackwater corporate troops?

And, has anyone, lately, contemplated just how fucking big the universe is, and how terribly insignificant each of us is?!!!

God must be laughing His beneficent ass off.

OY, yet again + Vay!
Orwellingly Yurz


"The modern conservative...is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy. That is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
--John Kenneth Galbraith

If dogs run free
Then what must be,
Must be...
And that is all
--Bob Dylan

The neo-cons have gotten welfare for themselves down to a fine art.
--me

"The meek shall inherit the earth, but not the mineral rights."
--J. Paul Getty

"The great thing about Art isn't what it give us, but what we become through it."
--Oscar Wilde

"We have Art in order not to die of life."
--Albert Camus

"I cling like a miser to the freedom I lose when surrounded by an abundance of things."
--Albert Camus

"Experience is the name so many people give to their mistakes."
--Oscar Wilde
Edited by - Orwellingly Yurz on 04/16/2007 17:51:52
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
4907 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2007 :  17:59:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yup, that's my school. I was coming out of Abstract Algebra when we saw the first police cars and ambulances. I didn't really think much of it, but joined a small crowd (5-7 people) at the window watching. I moved to the other side of the building and saw that they had surrounded Norris, about 100 meters away from me. Word quickly spread to stay inside buildings. After a short while, we started seeing people running out of Norris, many with their hands above their heads, being escorted by police officers. One older man (from what I hear, professor) had his entire left sleeve dripping in blood. We watched as police went in with their guns drawn, but couldn't see anything once they were inside. After a while of waiting (hour or two), we saw them search the roof, and shortly after that a police officer came through my building telling everyone to slowly and calmly head back to where you live.

As far as I know, they're still not allowing cars to enter campus, though anyone can leave. Classes are canceled until Wednesday.

But yes, I'm alright, and I know of no one personally who was injured.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
Edited by - Ricky on 04/16/2007 18:07:13
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2007 :  18:11:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good to hear, Ricky.

Is there any more info available?




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26000 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2007 :  18:13:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You've been run over by two trucks, Ricky, and now this. As a friend, I've gotta say I think you should transfer to a different school.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too.
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard

USA
4907 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2007 :  18:26:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not that I know of Filthy. I've been getting news from the typical media sources. I live off campus, and I haven't been back since the incident.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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Orwellingly Yurz
SFN Regular

USA
529 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2007 :  18:58:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Orwellingly Yurz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
YO: Ricky. So glad you're okay, man. I live not far from Stockton, CA where there was another awful incident like this some years ago at a grade school.

Take care, dude.

OY.

"The modern conservative...is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy. That is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
--John Kenneth Galbraith

If dogs run free
Then what must be,
Must be...
And that is all
--Bob Dylan

The neo-cons have gotten welfare for themselves down to a fine art.
--me

"The meek shall inherit the earth, but not the mineral rights."
--J. Paul Getty

"The great thing about Art isn't what it give us, but what we become through it."
--Oscar Wilde

"We have Art in order not to die of life."
--Albert Camus

"I cling like a miser to the freedom I lose when surrounded by an abundance of things."
--Albert Camus

"Experience is the name so many people give to their mistakes."
--Oscar Wilde
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 04/16/2007 :  22:16:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OY said:
quote:
Take care, dude.


Ok.


But let me say that I don't live in VA. All is well down here in sunny FL though


Also glad to hear you are ok Ricky.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard

USA
3834 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2007 :  02:54:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm glad you are OK too. I hope you don't find out anyone close to you died when the lists come out. Apparently the librarian at my son's high school has a nephew who was one of the wounded but he's OK.

It's so sad. I give you another day, Ricky, and I'll bet it will hit you like a ton of bricks. I'm emotional and I have no connection to anyone there. It's just a tad stressful and very depressing.

32 people is just sooo many.


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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard

USA
3834 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2007 :  03:02:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Orwellingly Yurz

YO:... The shooter should've waited till... Friday ...

Tell me why?

I don't like Mondays.




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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2007 :  04:06:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Glad you're okay, Ricky!


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9672 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2007 :  06:32:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If everyone had a handgun, this idiot wouldn't have lived long enough to get his significant score.

(ok, that was irony on my part. I'm a supporter of strict gun-control, purley on emotional basis)

Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3

"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse

Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
Collateralmurder.
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tkster
Skeptic Friend

USA
193 Posts

Posted - 04/17/2007 :  07:01:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send tkster a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, there will always be people who try to use this as an example to support their ideas on something, but the good thing is that Ricky is alive and well. Unfortunately, this was one of the worst shootings in the U.S. as far as educational institutions are concerned.

tk
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