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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
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 Posted - 05/21/2007 : 02:01:55
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Things have been sad around this house the last couple of days. Mike's girlfriend left him and now this:
Rescuers call off search for runner missing on Cougar Mountain
The thing is, Cougar mountain is pretty well traveled. It's on the edge of the suburbs here so this isn't like some wilderness trek or anything. In other words you can't really get lost so he has to be hurt or dead. It's really awful.
Anyway, just felt better to share. I've only met the kid once or twice but he's in my son's group of friends. They all gathered at the boy's house last night. I'm sure some people will keep looking. But the fact they couldn't see anything with the heat detector flying overhead is just not good.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 05/21/2007 : 03:37:37 [Permalink]
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Not good at all, but those heat dectection devices are not the be-all, end-all that they are cracked up to be in searching for a missing person. They can get lots of false readings from wildlife, and the gentleman could be injured and holed up somewhere that he has a little shelter and his body heat doesn't radiate out very well.
I'd not give up just on the basis of that.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 05/21/2007 : 05:12:22 [Permalink]
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Well, I hope for the best. Filthy's right, it's too early to give up hope, and almost impossible to really gauge the odds.
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
3834 Posts |
Posted - 05/21/2007 : 13:38:55 [Permalink]
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It is too early but the official search is not resuming, I guess. I wish it was still the weekend. The family is going to continue searching. How could you not? Mike had school tests today but we may just all go looking tomorrow despite other obligations.
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
3834 Posts |
Posted - 05/22/2007 : 00:12:26 [Permalink]
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THEY FOUND HIM. HE WAS WELL ENOUGH TO, GET THIS, WALK HOME.
He walked home! I have no details yet. I don't know what happened or if he walked home because they had taken his car home. Guess I'll find out tomorrow.  |
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
1613 Posts |
 Posted - 05/22/2007 : 00:54:31 [Permalink]
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Good to hear!
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 05/22/2007 : 03:25:52 [Permalink]
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Great! Like I discovered the other night, we have a powerful homing instinct that often will bring us back even when dazed. Details when available, please!
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
 Posted - 05/22/2007 : 03:32:43 [Permalink]
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
3834 Posts |
Posted - 05/22/2007 : 16:33:35 [Permalink]
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Missing Issaquah man returns home, says he fell into ravineSchreck said he had run from Cougar Mountain, between Newcastle and Bellevue, , to Squak Mountain, south of Issaquah, and, Urquhart said, subsequently "fell into a ravine."
Schreck said he "hit his head and was knocked unconscious."
Sometime later, Schreck said, he came to, rolled under a log, and covered himself with leaves.
Schreck said he then got water from a creek and walked back to Cougar Mountain to get his Ford Explorer. It had been towed, so he walked home, a distance of about five miles.
Beyond that, Urquhart said, Schreck has no further memory of his ordeal. He appeared to be uninjured, was in good health, and did not need to be hospitalized. |
I'm not sure what to think here. I've seen people with head injuries and the loss of consciousness is usually caused by brain swelling. In such a case where you would be out for more than 24 hours (let alone 3 days) your brain returns to normal slowly, not all at once. If he is dazed and confused for a few days, it's a credible story. If he was perfectly normal upon arriving home, one has to wonder where he recovered. Was it over the time it took to get back? I'm not the expert so I await more info from the kids. I haven't heard anything more than the news last night via an email to my son that he got back and this news story today so far.
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
3834 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2007 : 12:20:12 [Permalink]
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Here's the final update unless anything else develops which there is no reason to think will.
He fell down a ravine and had a semi-serious head injury. He was unconscious for somewhere between one and three days. He was in an area they weren't searching. (Which is a shame because common sense would have said to search there, it's a connected park and has similar terrain. It's where the family was searching after the official search was called off.)
Anyway, he woke up but was too weak to climb out of the ravine so he stayed there as the news account says. This is where it makes sense and actually does fit the clinical picture. With a serious head injury, as you recover, you are sleepy for a day or more as the brain swelling goes down. So he was probably awake off and on for quite a while after the injury. At the same time he may not really remember being awake off and on until he reached a certain point. So he might think he was unconscious for 2 or 3 days when it could have actually been even as short as a few hours. But that recovery time where he was groggy and couldn't really get back out to the trail could have easily lasted a couple of days.
Also, interestingly enough, the fact it rained and was cool actually was beneficial. As long as you don't die of hypothermia, it has a protective effect on a damaged brain. The slower metabolism decreases brain damage from free radicals which circulate with the tissue injury. These free radicals are specifically harmful to brain cells.
Weird story, happy ending.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 05/23/2007 : 15:36:48 [Permalink]
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That is just so cool! It's almost as though the man's body and brain were evolved over billions of years to handle such emergencies.
Either that, or he was really spending a few days with some hoochie.
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
3834 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2007 : 16:10:14 [Permalink]
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Lots of people are going to believe the 'hoochie' explanation. Having seen one kid in particular in the hospital who had been smacked with a baseball bat and who slept off and on for more than 24 hours, I actually think the story as reported is completely consistent with the physiology of such an injury.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 05/23/2007 : 18:29:56 [Permalink]
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Hoochie hypotheses are more interesting that boring medical reality, anyway.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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My son's friend's dad is missing.
