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 Do Star Trek "Redshirts" really die more often?
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 08/04/2007 :  20:46:37  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here's an article that actually does a statistical analysis on this long-debated Star Trek (the original series) question.


He's dead, Jim.

I think this is an outstanding example of applying real critical thinking to an unreal issue.

A sample quote:
Besides not beaming down, another factor that showed to increase the survival rate of the red-shirts was the nature of the relationship between the alien life and captain Kirk. When Captain Kirk meets an alien woman and "makes contact" the survival rate of the red-shirted crewmen increases by 84%. In fact, out of Captain Kirks' 24 "relationships" there were only three instances of red-shirt vaporization.
There are also some neat PowerPoint graphs.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.

Edited by - HalfMooner on 08/04/2007 20:56:47

On fire for Christ
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Posted - 08/04/2007 :  21:12:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Star Trek was truly groundbreaking in the equal rights movement. I remember an episode where Kirk is forced by an evil alien to choose who gets killed; a blonde, beautiful red-shirt woman, or a young, black red-shirt man. Kirk refuses to choose and the alien kills the blonde woman.

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 08/04/2007 :  21:19:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by On fire for Christ

Star Trek was truly groundbreaking in the equal rights movement. I remember an episode where Kirk is forced by an evil alien to choose who gets killed; a blonde, beautiful red-shirt woman, or a young, black red-shirt man. Kirk refuses to choose and the alien kills the blonde woman.
Right. Captain Kirk knew that all Redshirts are equally expendable.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 08/05/2007 :  07:32:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The thing that makes this kinda tragic is that the Red shirts were security personnel.

When Roddenberry came out with the away team dress up kit, some hardcore Trekkors suggested it should consist of a red shirt and a body bag.

In the parody song "Star Trekkin" there are some rather funny lyrics.

"Oh, I'm a crew member you don't know
I was hired for just one show
And down to the planet's surface I must go
Where I'll be killed (yes, you'll be killed)
Or seriously hurt (No, you'll be killed)"


Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 08/05/2007 :  13:58:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Maybe it would have helped a bit if the Redshirts had switched to camos?


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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On fire for Christ
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Posted - 08/05/2007 :  21:32:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The color red in of itself provokes thoughts of danger and violence. Also as HalfMooner is suggesting, causes the crewman to be highly visible in various planetary environments.

Perhaps this is why security had changed their uniforms to Gold by 'The next generation'

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filthy
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Posted - 08/06/2007 :  03:23:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I find myself reminded that some prisons in the South and maybe elsewhere, around the turn of the last century and later, used to make prisoners deemed potential troublemakers to wear red shirts. It made them easier targets for the guards on the walls.




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