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The Rat
SFN Regular
Canada
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 Posted - 09/28/2007 : 21:58:37
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Nice little creationist spoof, The reDiscovery Institute
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Bailey's second law; There is no relationship between the three virtues of intelligence, education, and wisdom.
You fiend! Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church? - The Bishop of Bath and Wells, Blackadder II
Baculum's page: http://www.bebo.com/Profile.jsp?MemberId=3947338590 |
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
3739 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2007 : 00:55:59 [Permalink]
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| Very nice. I had forgot about the anti-evolution messages on Starbucks products. And any reason to criticize Starbucks is welcomed by me (a former but still loyal employee of a local coffee roaster in Columbus, Ohio that was personally threatened by Starbucks reps when they refused to sell, and were then specifically targeted by Starbucks for elimination through aggressive and focused competition - which thankfully failed.) |
"Too much certainty and clarity could lead to cruel intolerance" -Karen Armstrong
Check out my art store: http://www.marfknox.etsy.com
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
14408 Posts |
 Posted - 09/29/2007 : 02:47:32 [Permalink]
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I have been a fan of Dr. Azo Mazur for some time. It really is an excellent site.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2007 : 03:24:22 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marfknox
Very nice. I had forgot about the anti-evolution messages on Starbucks products. And any reason to criticize Starbucks is welcomed by me (a former but still loyal employee of a local coffee roaster in Columbus, Ohio that was personally threatened by Starbucks reps when they refused to sell, and were then specifically targeted by Starbucks for elimination through aggressive and focused competition - which thankfully failed.)
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I don't doubt the sharp business practices of Starbucks that you mention, Marf. But I don't see anything on that site about Starbucks or any anti-evolution messages from it. In fact, when Googling, I found this image of a Starbucks cup:
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
3739 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2007 : 09:02:59 [Permalink]
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Mooner, Starbucks isn't for or against evolution or ID. They had an marketing campaign where they just tried to gain attention by putting quotes from a wide variety of people on their cups, many of which were controversial. http://www.denverpost.com/lifestyle/ci_5902652
I was reminded of two anti-evolution quotes by the reDiscovery Institute's "Hall of Fame" which includes Starbucks: http://www.re-discovery.org/index.html
Starbucks is scum for using out-of-context quotes to stir controversy purely for their own selfish marketing purposes, while simultaneously legitimizing the creationism-evolution debate by including quotes from both "sides" (I put sides in quotations because the debate is in fact highly complicated which is exactly why it is a shitty thing to encourage black and white, simple thinking on the matter as Starbucks promoted with this campaign.)
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"Too much certainty and clarity could lead to cruel intolerance" -Karen Armstrong
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
4574 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2007 : 09:44:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marfknox
Starbucks is scum for using out-of-context quotes to stir controversy purely for their own selfish marketing purposes, while simultaneously legitimizing the creationism-evolution debate by including quotes from both "sides" (I put sides in quotations because the debate is in fact highly complicated which is exactly why it is a shitty thing to encourage black and white, simple thinking on the matter as Starbucks promoted with this campaign.) |
Exactly.
PZ Myers has a good article on this topic: Starbucks gets cozier with the DI:| Starbucks has a disclaimer — "The opinions put forth by contributors to 'The Way I See It' do not necessarily reflect the views of Starbucks" — and they put a wide range of nonsensical quotes in there, but they admit that they invited these contributions from "notable contributors from various fields", so I have to hold them culpable for promoting IDiocy. |
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 09/29/2007 : 09:46:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marfknox
Mooner, Starbucks isn't for or against evolution or ID. They had an marketing campaign where they just tried to gain attention by putting quotes from a wide variety of people on their cups, many of which were controversial. http://www.denverpost.com/lifestyle/ci_5902652
I was reminded of two anti-evolution quotes by the reDiscovery Institute's "Hall of Fame" which includes Starbucks: http://www.re-discovery.org/index.html
Starbucks is scum for using out-of-context quotes to stir controversy purely for their own selfish marketing purposes, while simultaneously legitimizing the creationism-evolution debate by including quotes from both "sides" (I put sides in quotations because the debate is in fact highly complicated which is exactly why it is a shitty thing to encourage black and white, simple thinking on the matter as Starbucks promoted with this campaign.)
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Now, that's something I understand, and agree with. So Starbucks is just using words for marketing purposes, with no concern at all for their meaning, and no position at all of their own. Thanks for clarifying that.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 09/29/2007 : 12:46:10 [Permalink]
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If you look on the bottom of a cup and on burger wrappings from
In –N-Out Burger you will find a references to a bible quotes.
Then there are the little pieces of paper that came with lunch on Alaskan Airlines. It was a prayer. Honestly speaking, I think that reminding people of their mortality while flying may not be the best idea…
On one trip via Alaskan I was happy to have the piece of paper because I couldn't find a place for my gum when the food showed up. Very handy…
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Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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Fun web site
