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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 10/10/2007 :  08:08:55  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Typical "convert" behavior, IMO:
FOX RIVER GROVE – A former District 3 art teacher who was fired last week claims that his instruction on veganism and animal rights was an attempt to teach students about the power of advertising in the visual arts.

Dave Warwak, 44, of Williams Bay, Wis., alleged in an appeal filed Wednesday that District 3 officials ignored the Federal Trade Commission's ruling against misleading commercial advertising in schools by refusing to take down a poster promoting milk in the Fox River Grove Middle School cafeteria.

Warwak said his decision to give students literature promoting veganism and animals rights was an attempt to teach them about how the meat and dairy industries use their “influence to shape and guide the values and morals of society through indoctrination.”

School officials and parents have said the materials contained graphic images depicting animal cruelty in food production that were inappropriate for middle-school children.

School board members voted, 7-0, to fire Warwak on Sept. 24. They said he began teaching veganism and animal rights instead of art without telling school officials or parents, told students to keep it a secret, and then refused to answer school officials' questions about what he was teaching.
. . .
Warwak, who became a vegan in January, said he would drop his appeal if the school agreed to switch cafeteria menus to exclude meat and dairy products.

“If the school goes vegan, everything's fine,” he said.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.

perrodetokio
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Posted - 10/10/2007 :  09:23:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send perrodetokio a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

Typical "convert" behavior, IMO:
FOX RIVER GROVE – A former District 3 art teacher who was fired last week claims that his instruction on veganism and animal rights was an attempt to teach students about the power of advertising in the visual arts.

Dave Warwak, 44, of Williams Bay, Wis., alleged in an appeal filed Wednesday that District 3 officials ignored the Federal Trade Commission's ruling against misleading commercial advertising in schools by refusing to take down a poster promoting milk in the Fox River Grove Middle School cafeteria.

Warwak said his decision to give students literature promoting veganism and animals rights was an attempt to teach them about how the meat and dairy industries use their “influence to shape and guide the values and morals of society through indoctrination.”

School officials and parents have said the materials contained graphic images depicting animal cruelty in food production that were inappropriate for middle-school children.

School board members voted, 7-0, to fire Warwak on Sept. 24. They said he began teaching veganism and animal rights instead of art without telling school officials or parents, told students to keep it a secret, and then refused to answer school officials' questions about what he was teaching.
. . .
Warwak, who became a vegan in January, said he would drop his appeal if the school agreed to switch cafeteria menus to exclude meat and dairy products.

“If the school goes vegan, everything's fine,” he said.



Soooo... this guy turned vegan a few months ago (january 2007?) and wants a whole school to turn vegan? Seems ludicrous.

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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 10/10/2007 :  09:43:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Doesn't seem to have much to do with teaching art to middle-schoolers. And, of course, that's what he was being paid to do.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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perrodetokio
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Posted - 10/10/2007 :  10:50:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send perrodetokio a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

Doesn't seem to have much to do with teaching art to middle-schoolers. And, of course, that's what he was being paid to do.




Yes, that too, of course. It´s just that I find very upsetting this one guy who seems to JUST TURN VEGAN a few months ago trying to convert a whole school to veganism.

Don´t get me wrong, I respect the guy´s desition to turn vegan, however I don´t respect him for trying to force a whole school to turn vegan. And that´s besides the point of him being paid to teach art and end up teaching... veganism!

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Kil
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USA
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Posted - 10/10/2007 :  17:08:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Warwak, who became a vegan in January, said he would drop his appeal if the school agreed to switch cafeteria menus to exclude meat and dairy products.

“If the school goes vegan, everything's fine,” he said.


Like he will win the appeal? This guy is out to lunch, no matter how meatless it is...


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marfknox
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Posted - 10/10/2007 :  20:30:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit marfknox's Homepage  Send marfknox an AOL message Send marfknox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I quiver with embarrassment for art teachers everywhere.

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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 10/10/2007 :  20:59:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm tempted to try to even things out, by getting a job as a vegan animal rights teacher (maybe for PeTA?), then secretly teaching art. Betcha they wouldn't see that coming!


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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 10/11/2007 :  05:31:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ok we'll change the menu, if you personally eat the 300 pounds of meat left in the fridge. What a jerk.

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filthy
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Posted - 10/11/2007 :  07:41:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Why do I find myself reminded of Kansas & Cobb County and, oh yes, Kitzmiller?

I support PETA, up to a point at least, but what does that and vegan have to do with art? Answer: the same as ID/Creation has to do with science and therefore none of it should not be taught in the class.




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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/12/2007 :  17:31:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

Warwak, who became a vegan in January, said he would drop his appeal if the school agreed to switch cafeteria menus to exclude meat and dairy products.

“If the school goes vegan, everything's fine,” he said.


Like he will win the appeal? This guy is out to lunch, no matter how meatless it is...




This happened around my neck of the woods.

What they didn't say in this article was that after being suspended for going on a vegan rant in the middle of art class, he first claimed he was being oppressed and denied his first amendment rights. When that failed, he became more illucid and claimed that he was just trying to protect children the best he could. When asked if he could continue his class without foisting his veganism on students, he said "no". Hence, his firing for cause.

Teacher's Union won't touch him with a 10 foot cattle prod.

He then made the whack-job statements about how he refused to return to class unless the school went vegan. Ummmm. Yer fired, asshole. How's that gonna play out? Yup, with the level of ignoring that it should have.

He's appealing. He might just win. And if you put a little hat on a snowball, it can last a long time in Hell.

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Dr. Mabuse
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Sweden
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Posted - 10/13/2007 :  14:20:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

I'm tempted to try to even things out, by getting a job as a vegan animal rights teacher (maybe for PeTA?), then secretly teaching art. Betcha they wouldn't see that coming!
With the job you've done on Moonscape News, I pretty sure you woudn't be able to pull it off...


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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 10/13/2007 :  16:03:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, I'm type-cast, bow.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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