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Gorgo
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 Posted - 12/06/2007 : 10:02:47 [Permalink]
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Anyway, that's my two cents (pun certainly intended!).
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It wasn't on all the money, and it wasn't the official motto until, I think, the 1950's. Yes, it appeared on some money, but E Pluribus Unum was the unofficial motto of the country until about 1956.
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Risendemonx
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Posted - 12/06/2007 : 10:50:31 [Permalink]
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Whoops, thanks pleco, I goofed- I meant the Declaration of Independence!
thanks for the correction |
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Risendemonx
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Posted - 12/06/2007 : 11:03:09 [Permalink]
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I'll have to check that out- I knew that it wasn't adopted as our national motto until the 1950s (likely for the same reason that "under god" was put in the Pledge), but i'm not really familiar with which coins it was on before that point. Need to check out my coin collection.
I'm pretty sure they were on the 1 cent, 5 cent, 10 cent, quarters, half dollars, and solver dollars since at least 1920
On a related topic, I am at a loss as to why the religous wouldn't want it removed from coinage either. I guess I always thought it ironic that the phrase "In God we Trust" on currency, which is supposed to be lent unto caesar. I guess if I were a religous person at the time they started doing this, I probably would have thought that it cheapened god somehow. |
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 12/06/2007 : 11:05:14 [Permalink]
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| It seems to me that the only reason it's allowed, is that God has been reduced to something meaningless. Why do religious people not object? Because they know that it means they are pushing THEIR religion. |
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pleco
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USA
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Posted - 12/06/2007 : 11:08:47 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Gorgo
It seems to me that the only reason it's allowed, is that God has been reduced to something meaningless. Why do religious people not object? Because they know that it means they are pushing THEIR religion.
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Good point, only the Christians are protesting...hmmm |
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moakley
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Posted - 12/06/2007 : 17:38:18 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Risendemonx
I'm pretty sure they were on the 1 cent, 5 cent, 10 cent, quarters, half dollars, and solver dollars since at least 1920
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For the history of US coins. |
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 12/06/2007 : 19:28:20 [Permalink]
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I remember being in elementary school when "under god" was added to the Pledge. Even then, I didn't much like it.
Actually, I'm not very happy with the Pledge of Allegiance itself. It seems to me that, in a democracy, instead of citizens pledging loyalty to their government, that government officials ought to pledge allegiance to their constituents, along with their existing oath to uphold the Constitution. In recent times, we've seen almost complete disregard of either concern.
"Under God" on our money is essentially meaningless as a slogan, aside from its intended purpose: To establish the Judeo-Christian God as the official deity -- as though any were needed. There are many other gods out there, and many are not simply called "God."
It continues to baffle me that so many religious people cannot seem to "get" the clean, neutral principle of secularism in government. Secularism was originally promoted to protect minority religions from abuse. That it also tends to protect freethinkers from abuse should not be reason to oppose it. Unless, of course, the purpose behind opposing secularism is to oppress everyone who does not espouse their faith.
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Court debates "god" on money and pledge
