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filthy
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Posted - 02/19/2008 :  09:12:50  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have long and loudly stated that the Okeefenoki Bullfrog is, pound for pound, among the most ferocious predators that ever lived. It will eat anything that it can overpower and swallow and this includes fish, rodents, snakes, neonate turtles & alligators, toads and other frogs including smaller bullfrogs, and even birds. I once found a bat in one that I was cleaning for the skillet. Well, it seems that the Cretatious, wherein 'most everything except mammals was bigger & better, had a frog to contend with as well: Beelzebufo ampinga, and what a frog it was!



The article speculates that it may well have preyed upon hatchling dinosaurs but, knowing a little about frogs, I don't think there is any “may have” about it.

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - It was the biggest, baddest, meanest froggy ever to have hopped on Earth.

Scientists on Monday announced the discovery in northwestern Madagascar of a bulky amphibian dubbed the "devil frog" that lived 65 million to 70 million years ago and was so nasty it may have eaten newborn dinosaurs.

This brute was larger than any frog living today and may be the biggest frog ever to have existed, according to paleontologist David Krause of Stony Brook University in Stony Brook, New York, one of the scientists who found the remains.

Its name, Beelzebufo ampinga, came from Beelzebub, the Greek for devil, and bufo -- Latin for toad. Ampinga means "shield," named for an armor-like part of its anatomy.

Beelzebufo (pronounced bee-el-zeh-BOOF-oh) was 16 inches
long and weighed an estimated 10 pounds (4.5 kg).


And of course, Dinosaurs doubtless preyed upon it as well and thus the world turns -- oh, wait….. They were all vegetarian until the Fall, weren‘t they?

Hahahaha! Tell that one to the guys in the Okeefenoki!






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HalfMooner
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Posted - 02/19/2008 :  12:26:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Another great post, Fil!
The article speculates that it may well have preyed upon hatchling dinosaurs but, knowing a little about frogs, I don't think there is any “may have” about it.
The voice of practical experience. LOL!


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filthy
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Posted - 02/19/2008 :  13:22:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

Another great post, Fil!
The article speculates that it may well have preyed upon hatchling dinosaurs but, knowing a little about frogs, I don't think there is any “may have” about it.
The voice of practical experience. LOL!


Thanks! Amphibians are amazing animals and if we look back into the Permian, when they first came ashore, they were astonishing.



Hell, they're still astonishing. All but a handful were killed off during the huge extinction event at the end of the Permian, yet they still persist, recovering in the Triassic, when ancestral frogs first appeared.



Beelzebufo was a much later development and it causes me to wonder: what other frogs might there have been? Perhaps this guy wasn't really the Bull-Goose Frog at all..... If not, wouldn't we love to see the species that was!




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ktesibios
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Posted - 02/19/2008 :  15:53:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ktesibios a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy



Its name, Beelzebufo ampinga, came from Beelzebub, the Greek for devil, and bufo -- Latin for toad. Ampinga means "shield," named for an armor-like part of its anatomy.



While their paleontology might be beyond reproach, they don't seem to be much on etymology. Beelzebub is generally considered to have been derived from Hebrew, possibly ba'al zevub, "lord of flying things" or "lord of the flies".

Here's the Wiki article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beelzebub , although the same bit of information is also found in one of Asimov's short stories.

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filthy
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Posted - 02/19/2008 :  16:45:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by ktesibios

Originally posted by filthy



Its name, Beelzebufo ampinga, came from Beelzebub, the Greek for devil, and bufo -- Latin for toad. Ampinga means "shield," named for an armor-like part of its anatomy.



While their paleontology might be beyond reproach, they don't seem to be much on etymology. Beelzebub is generally considered to have been derived from Hebrew, possibly ba'al zevub, "lord of flying things" or "lord of the flies".

Here's the Wiki article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beelzebub , although the same bit of information is also found in one of Asimov's short stories.
Thanks! I too, was vaguely under the impression that Beelzebub was from the Hebrew but whadda I know. I barely speak English. Bufo, as mentioned is from the Latin.

Scientific names are generally considered to be Latinized and most of them are, although in fact, they might be anything that appeals to the discoverer. I thought Beelzebufo to be a little silly, but neat anyway.

So evidently the Greeks had nothing to do with it. (Durn Greeks tryin' to steal ever'thing not spiked the the mainm'st.)




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bngbuck
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Posted - 02/19/2008 :  20:15:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote

To a priapic Anura with legs bowed,
Mamanura said, "No way, hit the road!"
So he mounted a lizard.....
And he punctured her gizzard!
She sighed, "God what a horny old toad!"

























LOL...Look at the Leapin', Lovin', Lascivious Lizards!










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bngbuck
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Posted - 02/19/2008 :  20:45:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Forum Friends of Frogs.....

I just Found what I was really Fumbling for - a Photo of Frogs Fucking! Feel free to Fondle your Fundament if you Fantasize Fornication with Frogs!

I have to admit there is some suggestion of anura necrophilia here! Try to ignore that, and just enjoy!



Friendly little Fuckers!

Edited by - bngbuck on 02/19/2008 20:47:53
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 02/19/2008 :  21:14:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like this critter, said to have been discovered by Doctors Comfort and Cameron:


Beefbufo ampinga



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Edited by - HalfMooner on 02/19/2008 21:15:06
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Kil
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Posted - 02/19/2008 :  21:21:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Many years ago I had an African clawed frog.



They are completely aquatic and very cool to look at even though they really don't do anything much, accept assume a position and wait for prey to make the mistake of swimming too close to the frogs mouth or outstretched arms. I fed it gold fish.

I also had a Tire eel in the same tank. It was a pretty big eel and they lived together in the tank for several years.



One morning I awoke and looked at the tank. The eel was gone and the frog had a funny and yet satisfied look on his face.

Eating the eel was no small feat for that frog. The eel was longer than the frog and pretty plump as eels go. But, unfortunately for the eel, he got too close…

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 02/19/2008 :  22:52:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Amphibian Kindergarten

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Edited by - HalfMooner on 02/20/2008 02:45:49
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filthy
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Posted - 02/20/2008 :  03:51:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Amphibious Cluster-fuck


Actually bubble-nesting tree frogs (species uncertain. There are a number of species of bubble-nesters) spawning. I seem to recall writing something fairly lengthly on frogs a couple years back. Maybe I'll see if I can dig that out, if I can remember the title.

'Mooner, nothing is bigger than a frog's head! Be glad that none of them weigh a ton or more! I once had a Green Frog, (Rana clamitans -- slightly smaller than a Bullfrog (Rana catesbeiana), leap out of the water and try to swallow my hand at the middle finger. Comes to appetite & savage ferocity on scale, T. rex just couldn't compete.

Great picture, by the bye. I'm saving that one!




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HalfMooner
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Posted - 02/20/2008 :  04:23:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I seem to recall that a bullfrog tried to eat my hand once, when I was a kid. Luckily, its teeth (do they have teefs?) weren't much of a much. I didn't leave my fingers inside the frog long enough to be digested. I'm supposing they kill more by suffocation and digestion than anything else.

Thanks for the kudos about the captions I added! My unreliable crack-whore of a Muse simply planted those comments in my imagination. It seemed the illustration was made with that "lesson" in mind. Quickest thing I ever did.


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Edited by - HalfMooner on 02/20/2008 04:27:20
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filthy
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Posted - 02/20/2008 :  04:40:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

I seem to recall that a bullfrog tried to eat my hand once, when I was a kid. Luckily, its teeth (do they have teefs?) weren't much of a much. I didn't leave my fingers inside the frog long enough to be digested. I'm supposing they kill more by suffocation and digestion than anything else.

Thanks for the kudos about the captions I added! My unreliable crack-whore of a Muse simply planted those comments in my imagination. It seemed the illustration was made with that "lesson" in mind. Quickest thing I ever did.


They have teeth, of sorts, in the upper jaw only. These are very tiny and feel more like bristles.

The way a frog feeds is to lunge at the prey, scoop it up with it's tongue and clamp it against these teeth. Then work it down it's gullet. Some fully aquatic frogs don't have a tongue, and these simply create a partial vacumn in their bodies and then open their mouth to suck the prey in. Either way, it's very effective.




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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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HalfMooner
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Posted - 02/20/2008 :  04:51:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The frog seems to be more of an "ultimate eating machine" than Jaws.


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filthy
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Posted - 02/20/2008 :  05:04:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
By the sweaty scrotum of Sisyphus, I've found the article! But there is a problem: I've located it in my archives, but can't seem to dig it out of SFN's.

Li'l help, someone -- the title iS A RHAPSODY IN GREEN.

I'd hate to have to post the whole, damned thing all over again & won't unless asked -- asked a lot. The link would be much better.




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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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filthy
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Posted - 02/20/2008 :  05:13:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

The frog seems to be more of an "ultimate eating machine" than Jaws.


Joo bet-a joo bippy dey am! And a lot less specalized. A shark might go without feeding for weeks, but with a frog, it's every day & night, and anything with a little protine.

Damn, but I like frogs! How could we not? What's not to love?





"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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