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Dave W.
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 Posted - 02/28/2008 : 15:10:01 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Pelayo
Every time I see billions, I think of Carl Sagan. "billions and billions" |
Except he never said it. That was Johnny Carson's spoof of Sagan. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/28/2008 : 18:55:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by Pelayo
Every time I see billions, I think of Carl Sagan. "billions and billions" |
Except he never said it. That was Johnny Carson's spoof of Sagan.
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marfknox
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 02/28/2008 : 19:05:08 [Permalink]
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Dave wrote: | Except he never said it. That was Johnny Carson's spoof of Sagan. |
Really! That's pretty funny. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26020 Posts |
Posted - 02/28/2008 : 21:41:27 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by marfknox
Really! That's pretty funny. |
Unfortunately, nobody has thought to steal it for YouTube. I saw the clip on a documentary about Sagan. |
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/03/2008 : 07:37:19 [Permalink]
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| I love comments from reformed "Darwinists" when will these idiots learn that only fundies call us Darwinists. I just call us sane. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
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Pelayo
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 03/03/2008 : 11:09:23 [Permalink]
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Is no one going to say if this is right or wrong or an incomplete generalization?
"Creation and evolution theories are not complementary. Evolution does not explain the mechanism that caused the very first molecules to form up into primitive life forms so many millions billions of years ago."
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I have a habit of posting without reading all previous comments, if I am repeating someone, well, excuse me, please.
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 03/03/2008 : 11:25:32 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Pelayo
Is no one going to say if this is right or wrong or an incomplete generalization?
"Creation and evolution theories are not complementary. Evolution does not explain the mechanism that caused the very first molecules to form up into primitive life forms so many millions billions of years ago." |
Well, scientists don't call theories dealing with the first life forms "creation" theories. The field is termed Abiogenesis, and it is indeed separate from the theory of evolution, which only deals with what happened to life once it appeared.
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 03/03/2008 : 11:36:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
Originally posted by Pelayo
Is no one going to say if this is right or wrong or an incomplete generalization?
"Creation and evolution theories are not complementary. Evolution does not explain the mechanism that caused the very first molecules to form up into primitive life forms so many millions billions of years ago." |
Well, scientists don't call theories dealing with the first life forms "creation" theories. The field is termed Abiogenesis, and it is indeed separate from the theory of evolution, which only deals with what happened to life once it appeared.
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2nd that post, 100%. This drives me nuts but its easy to see how they connect the two, but it doesnt bug me as much as the linking of the big bang to evolution, which is far more asanine. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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Posted - 03/03/2008 : 11:38:43 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
I'd email for a free book, but the address he gives at his site is on the servers of these people, and there's no way I'm just going to hand them my email and street addresses.
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So I guess you have to have special software to detect this sort of thing? And is it possible for a server to "steal" somehow an address? How does that work? |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26020 Posts |
Posted - 03/03/2008 : 12:43:59 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
So I guess you have to have special software to detect this sort of thing? |
Huh? No. It's the domain name (after the at-sign in the email address).| And is it possible for a server to "steal" somehow an address? How does that work? |
It's their server, and their email software. Only a fool would prevent himself from seeing the addresses of the senders of the email he receives. As a business, you cover your ass by being sure you can turn over such data in case the cops come knocking with a warrant. |
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shaun2000
New Member
USA
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Posted - 03/08/2008 : 09:04:46 [Permalink]
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Sorry, this post took so long to appear I thought it wasn't going to get posted, so I'd stopped scanning for it.
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26020 Posts |
Posted - 03/08/2008 : 09:36:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by shaun2000
Sorry, this post took so long to appear I thought it wasn't going to get posted, so I'd stopped scanning for it. |
It appeared instantly. This folder doesn't hold posts for moderation.| Eleven to two against me, I don't think I'll find companionship on this board. So I'll continue on my lonely way. |
You could have attempted to make a case, instead of just hawking your book. |
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 03/08/2008 : 10:52:02 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by shaun2000
Eleven to two against me, I don't think I'll find companionship on this board. So I'll continue on my lonely way.
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Who was #2? And why should you need a "friend"? If your "theory" is sound and you have evidence to back it up, it should withstand any criticism?
Or do you just want to post in friendly places where you don't have to defend yourself? |
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moakley
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 03/08/2008 : 14:53:16 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by pleco
Originally posted by shaun2000
Eleven to two against me, I don't think I'll find companionship on this board. So I'll continue on my lonely way.
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Who was #2? And why should you need a "friend"? If your "theory" is sound and you have evidence to back it up, it should withstand any criticism?
Or do you just want to post in friendly places where you don't have to defend yourself?
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That's it. I suspect that he is aware that is book is nothing more than his unsubstantiated ideas. Ideas that can not stand the scrutiny from a site of skeptics. He cannot defend his ideas without falling back to denial of evidence or out right misrepresentation of facts. The members of this forum are not his target audience. Y'all think too much. |
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