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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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 Posted - 04/03/2008 : 20:34:06 [Permalink]
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Well, it appears that the jig is up.
For those of you who weren't sure about what Michelle was up to, and for those of you who thought she lost her mind or was skeptically challenged:
April Fools!!!
Did anyone bother to check her sources???  I recommend that you do.
She did indeed use the
The Secret as the main focus of her parody. (She also used some Ram Das styling as well as some other wooish self help guru's for inspiration.)
Here is a youtube link to Bob Proctor, who explains The Secret, and its assertion to a Universal Law of Attraction, the manipulation of which just happens to be the central thesis of The Secret.
Now that the jig is up, I will probably write a new introduction to her essay, unless you all think it should remain the way it is.
This is a skeptic's site after all
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 04/03/2008 : 20:52:02 [Permalink]
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Two sentences in I looked up at the date.... waited to see if anyone would take a bite though.
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 04/03/2008 : 21:13:05 [Permalink]
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I think it should stay as is.
I can put a big "April Fools!" in the OP of this thread, though, just so its easy to find. |
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bngbuck
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Posted - 04/03/2008 : 22:49:46 [Permalink]
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Kil.....
I totally missed the date, didn't even think about it being April Fool's Day, the more I read, the more I squinted, by one fourth through I was furiously revising my considered opinion of you due to your choice of girlfriends, you got me hook, line and sucker!!!! So help me, I'll find a way to get even!
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perrodetokio
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 04/04/2008 : 10:34:40 [Permalink]
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Hahaha! Yeah, I thought it was meant seriously as well! I kept thinking: WTF! And also: Why people in this site (specially Dave and Kil) are not tearing a new A-hole in this piece?
Well, now I know (and knowing itīs half the battle - G.I. Joe).
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/04/2008 : 11:38:04 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bngbuck
Humbert.....
| I just don't think we're the type of crowd to fall for it. |
According to Dude, we just did! |
Speak for yourself. While I may not have realized it was an April Fools' prank, I most certainly pegged it as a hoax. Not my fault if you didn't listen to me...
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bngbuck
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Posted - 04/04/2008 : 15:46:52 [Permalink]
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Humbert.....
I just did, yesterday! I thought the woman was a certified woo-lou!
You said:| I believe this was Michelle's attempt to play at L. Ron's game. In my opinion, she needs to pass out this info at one of those New Age conventions. |
So you see Hubbard as a hoaxer? I always felt he was a serious manipulator - starting from serious science fiction (successful SF author), proceeding to pseudo-psychiatry (Dianetics), meeting with some acceptance and proceeding to build a monstrous con-game (Scientology) designed to milk millions from movie stars and other deluded idiots!
I guess that could certainly be seen as hoax, but certainly not in the sense of benign trickster such as Michelle seems to be. (I am giving her and Kil the benefit of the doubt here, at least they didn't get to the point of selling self-help tracts!) |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/04/2008 : 16:04:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bngbuck
I guess that could certainly be seen as hoax, but certainly not in the sense of benign trickster such as Michelle seems to be. (I am giving her and Kil the benefit of the doubt here, at least they didn't get to the point of selling self-help tracts!) |
Right, which is why I said Michelle was only playing at it. Tell me, bngbuck, why is that you always need "clarification" that people don't intend the most malicious reading you can give to any sentence? You seem to love to plumb the depths of words like "pimp" and "hoax" searching for any slight you might conjure up. It's as if you enjoy controversy and create it whenever you see an opening. Even in threads in which I haven't even really participated I see you clumsily tauting me by name. Whatever reaction you hope to achieve, you aren't the smooth manipulator you think yourself to be. You're trolling powers are weak, old man.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
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Posted - 04/04/2008 : 18:10:03 [Permalink]
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Hummer.....
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Well, it is fun, as I've detailed elsewhere, for a poor old demented fool who really doesn't have anything else to do with his remaining days but taunt the puppies! Look at this post of yours! Did you have to write it? You could have commented on your views of L Ron Hubbard, but you chose to direct words like "tell me" and "searching for any slight" and "you enjoy controversy and create it" and "clumsily tauting me", "you aren't the smooth manipulator" and "You're(sic)trolling powers are weak, old man."
Hummer why not just respond to the intent of my post instead of flaunting your sensitivity to perceived affront where none was intended? Why write spontaneous comments totally out of context to the topic being discussed like - "does anybody pay any attention to bngbuck, anymore?" - when I had not addressed anything to you or mentioned your name? Why are you surprised at taunt returned?
As to my trolling powers, your comment implies expertise! I would appreciate any tips you can offer!
Anyway, I apologize for successfully manipulating you and I shall attempt to restrain myself from forcing you to post unpleasant comments as you have here! |
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bngbuck
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Posted - 04/04/2008 : 18:21:12 [Permalink]
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Humbert.....
| Even in threads in which I haven't even really participated I see you clumsily tauting me by name. |
Oh yeah, Hummer I've got to tell you that I really love you, and Dude, and Marf more than you will ever know! You can't build a proper straw man without grasping at straws! |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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 Posted - 04/04/2008 : 19:18:55 [Permalink]
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You guys are kidding, right? Go take it to PM's if you must, but stop flaming in this thread now!!!
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froydnslp
New Member
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Posted - 04/04/2008 : 19:54:20 [Permalink]
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Okay Humbert and bngbuck. Michelle here. Unless your intention is to become the best of friends, based on "Newton's Third Law" and all that it implies, stop it!!!
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
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Posted - 04/04/2008 : 21:34:15 [Permalink]
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Humbert.....
Well, ipse dixit = sticky thicket, Hummer! Bye, Bye! |
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
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Posted - 04/04/2008 : 22:41:55 [Permalink]
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froydenslip.....
Michelle, I would say welcome to SFN except that I somehow feel you've been around here for a while; however I'm glad you're here anyway! I understand you've worked with disturbed children, and I am really glad to hear that because I am one! I need someone to understand me, and that obviously isn't going to happen with Kil or Dave. I'm sure I can gull you into believing I'm really harmless and loveable even though I've failed miserably with D&K!
Back in the Dark Ages, I had a little academic exposure to the craft in which you work and aspire to further matriculate. I try to keep up with some of the literature, but with the advent of serious psychopharmacology in the late 20th century, things have changed so much that I frequently feel that I am too seriously deficient in the disciplines of chemistry and microbiology necessary to really understand the subtleties of behavior modification possible in today's brave new world.
Actually, Humbert's statement.....| It's as if you enjoy controversy and create it whenever you see an opening. |
.....isn't too far from the mark, although I would never tell him that! (I would appreciate it if you wouldn't, either!)
I do get a kick out of playing circumambagious insult games when attacked - hence the 'disturbed child' comment above. It is childish, and I should be chided for it, but hell, when a guy is pushing eighty, he ought to be allowed some taste of a second childhood!
I fell for your joke exactly as intended because I lack the briskness of perception than the young Turks have. It's been a long time since I even thought about April Fools Day!
But you have an engaging literary style and could easily write for a living. Good work, Michelle, and keep it up! |
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