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Dude
SFN Die Hard

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Posted - 04/24/2008 :  09:00:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
bng said:
But Dude why does every mention of UAP (for example) have to involve "claims"? Or at least claims of things so unlikely that you have to strain to make it appear that a "claim" is being made?

Because of this:
Alien UAP= highly unlikely, but, a very interesting, very stimulating slim possibility!


It makes perfect sense that an alien capable of interstellar travel would show up now and then to flash some lights in the sky, mutilate the occasional cow, and abduct some trailerpark resident for a little fun-time with probes.....


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Dave W.
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Posted - 04/24/2008 :  11:55:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"All that we have learned is that one in ten doesn't seem to mind." (May not be safe for work.)

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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Why not question something for a change?
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 05/06/2008 :  23:58:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So bng, how was the Phoenix trip?

See any funny lights?


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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bngbuck
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USA
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Posted - 05/07/2008 :  00:57:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dude.....

We flew to Phoenix last April 25 to attend an annual Jazz Party that my wife and I have been going to for 31 years. Great music Saturday noon to 5 and back 7 to midnite. Eighteen top jazz musicians, mostly NY and LA based, but several from other parts of the country. Some old friends, some brand new.

One kid, Aaron Weinstien, about 19 or 20 - a violin virtuoso - classically trained, but playing Jazz in the tradition of Stephane Grapelli, a famous French jazz violinist of the 40's and 50's! Kid was fantastic!

Sunday morning, about noon. Enjoying New Orleans Jazz from a group of Crescent City cats - Saints, Closer Walk with Thee, etc. - and then my wife gets a call from her brother-in law. Her sister is dying up in Prescott, 80 miles to the north from Phoenix!

We rush out of the hotel, grab our rental car and race up to Prescott. Straight to the hospital, Patty (Gloria's sister 2 yrs younger) is in full life support, ventilator, tubes all over the place, etc., - she's in deep coma! 2 strokes, one heart attack, and heavy disseminated intravascular coagulation (DIC). She's purple all over!

We stay until Sunday, May 4th. Patty is still in coma and full life support, but life signs are improving and Gloria has to get back to work - keeping a really big auto dealership running. Fly back Sunday, G goes back to work Monday AM.

Phone rings Monday about 4 PM. Patty has died. Massive cerebral hemorrhage. Gloria is devastated, does the denial, then anger, then acceptance thing. Some God talk, I largely stay away from that, because I really can't relate. She stays home today (Tuesday) morning, goes back to work this afternoon.

We're going back to Prescott Wednesday May 14 for a memorial service. Patty and husband were apparently Presbyterians although I thought they were Episcopalian. No matter, big church dog and pony show next week. We gotta go and come back next day. I'm spending small fortunes on airplanes - what the hell I've got half a million Amex points. That's what they're for!

Oh, to address your question, I never got to asking anybody about the Lights In The Sky. When I go back next week, I'll try to catch a local buzz on the affair!

I intend to write later on the experience of watching (closely) a loved 68 year old sister in law die inch by inch, and the different takes, religious and othewise, from several different friends and relatives of the deceased! The experience bears somewhat on several of the Forum Topics here!
Edited by - bngbuck on 05/07/2008 01:01:26
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 05/07/2008 :  10:21:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
bng siad:
Phone rings Monday about 4 PM. Patty has died. Massive cerebral hemorrhage. Gloria is devastated, does the denial, then anger, then acceptance thing. Some God talk, I largely stay away from that, because I really can't relate. She stays home today (Tuesday) morning, goes back to work this afternoon.

Sorry to hear that.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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bngbuck
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USA
2437 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2008 :  10:36:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dude.....

Thanks for the kindness, Dude. I failed to mention that in the middle pf last week my wife, Gloria, had a TIA (triggered by stress), went into the same hospital where her near-twin sister was lying comatose, got a CAT, then MRI, very minor damage, went on Plavix, and was discharged. OK.

Good thing I've grown a sturdy exodermal layer and nasty disposition fighting with mean monkeys like you, or I'd probably be rollin' in a rattan rocker by now! Thanks for your concern, Dude. Serious!
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2008 :  13:56:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I too am saddened to hear that. You have my heart-felt condolences.





"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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bngbuck
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USA
2437 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2008 :  19:00:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Filthy.....

Thank you for your kindness. As with my Dad, my Mom, my sister, this shit happens. Death is shit!

I am grateful that the vast machinations of the Universe have so far allowed me to reach 79 and my dear wife to reach a lesser age, as yet both pretty unscathed.

SFN is damn good for the brain muscle which, if you don't use it, you lose it! It is one of the reasons I'm here! I appreciate you guys keeping me a mean old coot!
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