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Tokyodreamer
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 Posted - 06/29/2001 : 08:52:29
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I just thought this was so cool. From Skeptic News Were the Pyramids Built with Kites
For some reason, this reminded me of the Coral Castle. Anyone here heard of that? www.coralcastle.com quote:
Now we wonder what exactly was the source of inspiration that drove this man for 28 years to carve a coral castle from ground using nothing but home made tools from junk parts. Unrequited love? Ancient sciences that defy gravity, or just sheer, raw human determination?
Edited by - tokyodreamer on 06/29/2001 08:54:42
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Bozola
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Posted - 06/29/2001 : 10:27:09 [Permalink]
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Were the Pyramids built with kites?
No. They used limestone.
The egyptologists are skeptical because there are egyptian paintings depicting obilisk raising and monument moving. No kites. Just lots of workers, ropes, and various tools of the trade such as sledges.
Come to think of it, did the egyptians ever have kites? I seem to remember that kites were a chinese invention that only relatively recently make it over to the west.
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For some reason, this reminded me of the Coral Castle. Anyone here heard of that?
Yep, I've heard of this. Amazing amount of work...fortunately coral is soft...and he had steel tools and a car's engine hooked to a winch system to tote stuff around with. Great folk art.
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Lars_H
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Posted - 06/29/2001 : 12:04:04 [Permalink]
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A different article about the same story at:
http://www.dailynews.com/news/articles/0601/04/new03.asp
contains the following quote:
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"Egyptologists like to think of extraterrestrials or slaves only, but not in terms of clever techniques. This shows that ancient technology could have worked, that this kind of technology can be used to solve so-called impossible problems."
and this description of the researcher:
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Calling herself a backyard scientist, she even trademarked "pyramidiots" for a series of pocket protectors and T-shirts.
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Tokyodreamer
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Posted - 06/29/2001 : 12:50:32 [Permalink]
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No. They used limestone.
yuk yuk 
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Come to think of it, did the egyptians ever have kites? I seem to remember that kites were a chinese invention that only relatively recently make it over to the west.
I believe the article mentions paintings depicting kites in Egypt. I'll have to re-read it though...
[here we are: quote:
But Clemmons - who maintains ancient paintings and reliefs suggest the Egyptians flew kites - remains a firm believer in wind power.
Whether she's correct or not, who knows?]
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Gambatte kudasai!
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Lars_H
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Posted - 06/30/2001 : 16:33:34 [Permalink]
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I believe the article mentions paintings depicting kites in Egypt. I'll have to re-read it though...
She just thinks that the Egyptians on the reliefs look like they were steering kites. No actual pictures of anything that looks like a kite. Däniken at least had pictures of things that looked spacesuits and aliens.
She does not have anything directly connected to the pyramids. With her current evidence she might as well proof that they built Stonehenge with kites.
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Tokyodreamer
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Posted - 06/30/2001 : 20:01:47 [Permalink]
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Ooops, I wonder if I caused a misunderstanding. What I thought was cool was 2 people being able to lift a 6900 pound block of stone with a kite. Whether or not the Egyptians used that technique is out of my league. Bad choice of topic title, I guess, but I just chose it because that's what the article mentioned.
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Rift
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 07/02/2001 : 21:00:02 [Permalink]
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"Egyptologists like to think of extraterrestrials or slaves only, but not in terms of clever techniques. This shows that ancient technology could have worked, that this kind of technology can be used to solve so-called impossible problems."
Egads. What a terribly uninformed statement...
NO egyptologist believes ET OR slaves built the pryamids. Most believe that farmers built them, while the fields were under the waters of the Nile...
She needs to watch the latest NOVAs where all they used were 'clever' techniques.
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Lisa
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Posted - 07/03/2001 : 00:25:13 [Permalink]
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I saw a show on the history channel recently that suggested that the population at large had much to do with the building of many of the magnificant stuctures we see in Egypt today. It was considered part of the duty of all citizens to spend time building these things for the pharaoh. He was the direct link with the gods, so keeping him happy was a pretty good idea. As far as the "massive manpower required", watching floodwater isn't all that exciting. When the Nile would flood, there would be plenty of manpower.
There's another thing that has always bugged me about the Egypt whackos. They put forth the pyramids as an example of how the Egyptians couldn't have done all this without help. Why don't they mention all the failed attempts the Egyptians had at building structure? (i.e., they fell down, didn't work, kaput) Hmmmm, they always leave that out.
Lisa
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Rift
Skeptic Friend
USA
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Posted - 07/03/2001 : 00:43:54 [Permalink]
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Also from a governing point of view, having a bunch of busy farmers building something they can feel pride in is much better then having a bunch of bored farmers sitting around watching the flood waters drift by while talking about what a louzy moron that pharaoh guy is.
We know that the work crews were very competive, trying to out do each other. Inscripitons have been found in the great pryamids are on the back of stones bragging and boasting about their work gangs.
Slaves wouldn't do that...
Neither would aliens as far as I know :)
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shank
New Member
Singapore
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Posted - 07/03/2001 : 08:36:02 [Permalink]
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>> Were the Pyramids Built with Kites
It is not clear in the website the practcal aspects of lifting a several tonne stone with a kite. Can it be lifted and positioned with accuracy? Or does the wind direction affect it? The pyramid could end up looking like a random pile of stones(?).
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Lars_H
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Germany
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Posted - 07/03/2001 : 13:48:45 [Permalink]
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It is not clear in the website the practcal aspects of lifting a several tonne stone with a kite. Can it be lifted and positioned with accuracy? Or does the wind direction affect it? The pyramid could end up looking like a random pile of stones(?).
The way I understand it they are using a system of pulleys to move and lift the obelisk in the direction they want it to go. I guess not even a 'Pyramidiot' is insane enough, to let a 4-ton boulder freely glide wherever the winds are blowing it.
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