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the_ignored
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 Posted - 01/24/2003 : 20:44:53
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Despite its good intentions, it seemed to be focusing heavily on material that was incorrect, outdated by many decades, speculative, poorly documented, and usually not peer-reviewed by the creationist scientific journals. And it was precisely because the book was so well presented that we feared greatly for the many Christians who would be misled into thinking that at least most of its evidences and arguments would be sound.
We also became concerned at the surprising lack of discernment from many creation-oriented ministries, who were saying things like ‘every Christian home should have one' and that this book is set to become ‘the new standard for creation material'. All this—and the fact that we keep getting asked about it—was ultimately why we have taken the unusual step of releasing an edited cut-down version of our inhouse review notes, which follow. These notes are a compilation of input from a number of scientists and researchers active in the creation movement (who do not all work for AiG, incidentally).
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2003/0113peterson.asp
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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 Posted - 02/09/2003 : 15:26:33 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by the_ignored
http://www.answersingenesis.org/docs2003/0113peterson.asp
Very interesting reading. It started a train of thought that had some interesting cargo when it eventually stopped at the station... ;o)
Earth's magnetic field has changed a couple of times in the past. And this, as far as I know, can be verified by examining certain fossiles. Creationists claim that all fossiles came from the Flood. Well then, during the flood, the magnetic field must by their reasoning have shifted several times very quickly. And we know that this can't happen. At least not that fast.
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riptor
Skeptic Friend
Germany
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Posted - 02/10/2003 : 07:27:51 [Permalink]
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Just imagine Noah, trying to read the compass.
"Okay pals, and where's north THIS morning?" |
Hail the Big bearded Jellyfish up in heaven above. |
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Infamous
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 02/10/2003 : 11:15:11 [Permalink]
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I'm not so sure ANY magnetic field reversals would be necessary if the Flood did occur.
The Flood as described in the Bible would have naturally caused a lot of displacement. Then sediments which formed would not necessarily be aligned with the magnetic field...creating the illusion that the magnetic field was different when those sediments were laid down. |
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Slater
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USA
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Posted - 02/10/2003 : 12:53:35 [Permalink]
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| Except that no matter where you go on Earth the same layers of sediments point to magnetic north in the same direction, no matter which direction that was. They are all aligned, every last one. That's some illusion. |
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Infamous
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 02/10/2003 : 15:36:58 [Permalink]
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| I see. Then the strata are far too organized to have been caused by sedimentation. |
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Slater
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USA
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Posted - 02/10/2003 : 17:03:20 [Permalink]
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No, they are just fine to have been caused by sedimentation which took place over millions and millions of years. They just aren't possible from a world wide flood.
But then you already knew that, didn't you? |
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Infamous
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 02/11/2003 : 09:50:24 [Permalink]
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| Yes, that's what I meant, that the strata are too organized magnetically to have been caused by random sedimentation in a 40-day flood. |
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Slater
SFN Regular
USA
1668 Posts |
Posted - 02/12/2003 : 19:41:49 [Permalink]
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| Also you have to consider that these many layers of strata all contain surface features; river beds, sand dunes, burrows that sort of thing. Most damning to Noah are the track ways. Track ways are fossilized footprints and you can find them on every level since critters grew feet. Were the strata formed by a single world flood there would be footprints from before the flood and all the Noah-strata on top of it, followed by strata with post-delugeian tracks. That simply isn't the case. Unless air-breathing animals were strolling along under a couple of miles of H2O the fossil track record says there was no flood. |
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