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gezzam
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Posted - 07/05/2004 :  02:18:10  Show Profile  Visit gezzam's Homepage Send gezzam a Private Message
Looks like the Reverend Jerry Fallwell is a little worried about Dubya losing the election and is scared for "the pro-life, pro-family, pro-traditional marriage, pro-America voters in this nation"

Anyway, here's the link

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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 07/05/2004 :  04:28:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
Saw a couple of Sunday TV preachers talking about it too. They couldn't mention Bush by name. I should have recorded it because I think one of them said something about knowing who was led by God and who wasn't.

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Dude
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USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 07/05/2004 :  15:58:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Nice how he mentions Kerry's $150M, but fails to mention that Bush has raised almost double that.

He's stumping for people to donate to one of those IRS 527's, the ones that Bush used in 2000 primary to make John McCaine look like an adulterer(has a not-white adopted baby, they implied it was his love-child) married to a criminal drug addict.

Go figure.

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dominic_dice
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 07/06/2004 :  05:58:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send dominic_dice a Private Message
Don't they have rules about money raising, to keep it fair? Otherwise you are only going to succeed if you have policies that the rich support...

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Dude
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USA
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Posted - 07/06/2004 :  16:22:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
There are laws that limit individual contributions to campaigns and parties to $2k/person. There are laws about matching funds that can be recieved from the federal gov, which both candidates refused this year so they could raise these insane sums of money legally.

The catch? IRS code 527. You, me, anybody can start one. You can accept ANY ammount of money, a billion from a single person if they want to give it to you. The only thing you can't do is directly advocate a specific candidate. i.e. Vote for Kerry! What you CAN do, however, is run a single issue campaign. Say that your issue is firearms, you can run an add campaign that says how many times Kerry voted for gun control, make him look like some insane socialist godless commie, and it's OK. You can also run positive adds that highlight something a particular candidate has done for your single issue.

The 527's were the reason Bush won the republican primary in 2000. The NRA and the Cristian Coalition ran agressive push-polls in SC, they called white middleclass voters and asked them if they would vote for a presidential candidate who was the father of a black baby, or who was married to a drug addict with a criminal record. McCaine has an adopted non-white child, and his wife got hooked on painkillers from a series of back surguries and she got in some legal trouble, which she took care of and went to rehab ect...

Once again, for effect, there is no upper limit to how much money you can contribute to a 527.

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Dr. Mabuse
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Sweden
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Posted - 07/06/2004 :  20:39:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude
Once again, for effect, there is no upper limit to how much money you can contribute to a 527.
A hypothetical scenario: Someone decided to donate an obscene amount of money for a 527 issue, and want Kerry to win over Bush... What issue should be chosen as the best way to spend the money? You guys know way more about American politics than I do, but I'd like to get educated.

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Dude
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Posted - 07/06/2004 :  23:10:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Right now, I'd say a nice education based 527 could hammer Bush down in FL bigtime. FL public schools are a mess, and his retarded brother down here hasn't done anything to fix the problems, and Bush's education bill has been a big flop....

Or a civil liberty based 527 could probably kick the crap out of Bush on a national level, run a bunch of adds defending the bill of rights, and bashing the Patriot Act and it's proposed successor. If I had $100mil to burn this is the one I would probably do. Just have to get a team to come up with a bunch of 20 second sound bites that illustrate just how intrusive the patriots act is. A nice focused add campaign here could drive some of his base voters away even.... maybe.

Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

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Maverick
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Sweden
385 Posts

Posted - 07/07/2004 :  23:57:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Maverick a Private Message
Perhaps god is not happy with the way Bush is running things. You know you're going to lose when even your imaginary friends abandon you...

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Gorgo
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USA
5311 Posts

Posted - 07/08/2004 :  03:16:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
Anyone else supporting GAMPAC?

http://www.godlessamericans.org/

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