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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 09/15/2004 : 09:09:27
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Mr. Putin, a former KGB, who has been consolidating power since his election by taking over media sources and reestablishing the aura of fear around the Kremlin, "announced yesterday that he would be stripping Russias 89 regions of their autority and electoral legitamacy" [NYT] Thus forcing the goveners to serve him instead of the people who eleceted them.
The governors put up no protest one quoted as saying "An end will be put to the various demonstrations of extremism - religious, political and other." They will replace elections with presidential appointments, how the president is chosen or if it still will be is unknown at this time.
Good editorial from WP, most natable was the Bush/Kerry reactions
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A21910-2004Sep14.html
Most of the news services didnt even have a story about this how sad...
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"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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furshur
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Posted - 09/15/2004 : 10:03:01 [Permalink]
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| dubya must be green with envy. |
If I knew then what I know now then I would know more now than I know. |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 09/15/2004 : 10:18:17 [Permalink]
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| That is seriously fucked up. |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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Posted - 09/15/2004 : 19:34:31 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by furshur
dubya must be green with envy.
No kidding. What's frightening is how easily Putin could do this. Doubtless the limited history of political freedoms in Russia is facilitating some of these moves-- I doubt that our idiot President could get away with such a bold plan... |
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Starman
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Sweden
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Posted - 09/16/2004 : 02:51:04 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by furshur
dubya must be green with envy.
Actually Dubya (and Colin Powel ) criticized Putins actions.
So how do we know what W really thinks?
"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier... ( Chuckles ) ( laughter ) ...just so long as I'm the dictator. ( Laughter )"
-- President-elect George W Bush. Dec 18, 2000 |
"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
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tomk80
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Posted - 09/16/2004 : 03:15:51 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Cuneiformist
quote:
Originally posted by furshur
dubya must be green with envy.
No kidding. What's frightening is how easily Putin could do this. Doubtless the limited history of political freedoms in Russia is facilitating some of these moves-- I doubt that our idiot President could get away with such a bold plan...
That, combined with the chaos left behind by Jeltsin. |
Tom
`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/16/2004 : 05:58:18 [Permalink]
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| Actually Dubya didnt say anything about it, powell did. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Starman
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Sweden
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Posted - 09/16/2004 : 07:03:24 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Actually Dubya didnt say anything about it,....
Came yesterday:
"You know, recently I talked to President Putin of Russia. I told him this country mourns the loss of life as a result of the terrorist attacks, the terrorist attack on the school. I told him we stand shoulder-to-shoulder with them in fighting terror, that we abhor men who kill innocent children to try to achieve a dark vision. I'm also concerned about the decisions that are being made in Russia that could undermine democracy in Russia; that great countries, great democracies have a balance of power between central government and local governments, a balance of power within central governments between the executive branch and the legislative branch and the judicial branch. As governments fight the enemies of democracy, they must uphold the principles of democracy. "
Wednesday, September 15, 2004
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"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
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| Edited by - Starman on 09/16/2004 07:13:56 |
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 09/21/2004 : 10:08:10 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Starman
quote:
Originally posted by furshur
dubya must be green with envy.
Actually Dubya (and Colin Powel ) criticized Putins actions.
So how do we know what W really thinks?
"If this were a dictatorship, it would be a heck of a lot easier... ( Chuckles ) ( laughter ) ...just so long as I'm the dictator. ( Laughter )"
-- President-elect George W Bush. Dec 18, 2000
Bush as a dictator. That's enough to give me nightmares. I fear for my poor country's integrity. |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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Starman
SFN Regular
Sweden
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Posted - 09/21/2004 : 10:26:19 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Siberia
Bush as a dictator. That's enough to give me nightmares. I fear for my poor country's integrity.
Yea that's scary.
If he was a dictator he could start wars, imprison people without a trial, have suspected enemies tortured, steal money and give it to his supporters, lie unchallenged...
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"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
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| Edited by - Starman on 09/21/2004 10:32:14 |
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Siberia
SFN Addict
Brazil
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Posted - 09/21/2004 : 11:55:11 [Permalink]
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| Simple. He'd do the same as every slightly stupid dictator (and a mere continuation of what he's already doing): try to conquer the world and fall on his face. Then he'll stab/shoot/hang/poison/explode himself and become a big bad historical figure, leaving a lot, a LOT of gory stories behind. |
"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa
"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
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