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Dude
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Posted - 10/21/2004 :  16:18:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
telekinesis and extra-terrestrial life aren't even in the same ballpark, imo.

And we'll be using radio frequencies to communicate for a long time to come. What are all the com sattelites up there using? Some type of radio.

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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 10/21/2004 :  18:14:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
There are several order of magnitudes between signals that is sent out as greetings to other civilizations, and the every day communications on earth, and between earth and satellites. If we are going to pick up random radio signals, then the source need to be pretty damn close.

SETI is listening in on frequencies that are most likely to be used for inter-stellar communication.

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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 10/22/2004 :  05:02:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Sorry for the Telekenisis crap, was just trying to show another extremely remote possibility, Ill stick to reality from now on. Bacteria in the earths core...

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Dude
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Posted - 10/22/2004 :  18:18:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
clarify something...

Do you doubt that there is life elsewhere in the universe?

Or are you saying that SETI has as much chance of finding it as we have of finding a telekinetic?

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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/22/2004 :  21:26:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
BigPapaSmurf wrote:
quote:
...humans will only use radio for what a hundred years, were already moving out of it...
I am stunned by these ideas. Cellphones, WiFi, and all other wireless communications, all depend on "radio" signals. It's not like the SETI project is searching solely for AM or FM signals.
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This same arguement could be made for many things which would be the greatest discovery of all time, telekenisis for example.
The difference is that we have no evidence whatsoever for telekinesis (or for bacteria at the Earth's core), but we do have an example of radio-broadcasters: ourselves. And radio is actually ubiquitous from natural sources in the universe, too. The assumption being made by the SETI-at-home project is that other civilizations will come to use the electro-magnetic spectrum as much as we have, or more.

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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  06:24:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Ok to clarify my baseless points,

1: I mean we dont use radio signals powerful enough to reach very far, not that we dont use them. Or Nextel isnt available in the Eagle Nubula.

2: I do believe there is life elsewhere, just we wont find it with these techniques. Or the probability that we would find int life with these techniques is extremly remote.


"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  06:26:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
If we do try to look I think looking for the spectra of unnatural compounds might be better. Baseless point #3

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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chaloobi
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Posted - 10/25/2004 :  07:19:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send chaloobi a Yahoo! Message Send chaloobi a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Hawks

My computer has just crunched its 600th data unit for seti@home. Do any of you guys run any of these kinds of programs? I know of at least folding@home and fightAIDS@home, but there might be more. If you do run them, then why?

My reasons for running seti@home:
1. Why not, my CPU is idle most of the time.
2. It would be neat if someone found a signal.
3. I've run it for years, and I can't be asked switching to another.

I run Seti@home mostly because I think it's a good idea to look.

-Chaloobi

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