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Plyss
Skeptic Friend

Netherlands
231 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2004 :  15:38:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Plyss a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by satans_mom

Electronic Voice Phenomenon....

You probably already guessed it-- the dead "communicating with the living through means of electronics, via computers, stereos, and other electronic devices" by "speaking" through them. They had examples of someone asking into the speakers, "Who are you?" and the response being recorded as "Katy" (or whatever name it was of the dead). Ironically, to me, it sounded nothing like "Katy" and more of just static feedback. There was also, "Yup... this is Rob," "Get out of my house," and "Where's mommie?"

C'mon now.



You're probably going to love its visually more appealing spin-off, Instrumental Transcommunication. (warning: atrocious layout)

Miss Tick sniffed. 'You could say this piece of advice is pricesless', she said. 'Are you listening?'
'Yes' said Tiffany.
'Good now...If you trust in yourself.."
'Yes..?'
'..and believe in your dreams...'
'yes?'
'...and follow your star..' Miss Tick went on.
'Yes?'
'You'll still get beaten by people who spent their time working hard and learning things and weren't so lazy. Goodbye.'
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satans_mom
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USA
148 Posts

Posted - 11/10/2004 :  23:54:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send satans_mom an AOL message  Send satans_mom a Yahoo! Message Send satans_mom a Private Message
There have been some nights that I couldn't go to sleep because I kept on hearing a radio. I would search the entire house and find that nothing was on. So I started to think, "Maybe I can pick up radio inside my head..." because I would be able to hear a radio station when I am in a certain spot and in a certain direction. I've been baffled by these occurrences. Still no explaination, but there is a rational one somewhere. Or else maybe I can intercept radio signals...

Anyway, I hear things all the time that aren't really there. Then again, I have a very imaginative mind, and I dream about fantasies that instantly become reality, and I have to sit myself down, and tell myself, "Now, I've been dreaming again..."

I think a lot more people need to perform these mental exercises, especially if they are anything like me. By that I mean with a still child-like imagination. But is that plausible? *sigh*

Yo mama's so fat, she's on both sides of the family.

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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard

USA
4574 Posts

Posted - 11/11/2004 :  00:27:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by satans_mom

There have been some nights that I couldn't go to sleep because I kept on hearing a radio. I would search the entire house and find that nothing was on. So I started to think, "Maybe I can pick up radio inside my head..." because I would be able to hear a radio station when I am in a certain spot and in a certain direction. I've been baffled by these occurrences. Still no explaination, but there is a rational one somewhere. Or else maybe I can intercept radio signals...

I think there are rare cases where people have been known to pick up radio signals through their dental work. But I wore braces for 4 years and never had it happen. Anyone have a metal plate in their head who would like to comment?


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

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beskeptigal
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USA
3834 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2004 :  04:46:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
Don't know if this site is reliable but it makes sense.

Can you get radio reception in your teeth?

Snopes didn't address the topic directly.
Edited by - beskeptigal on 11/13/2004 04:47:26
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Siberia
SFN Addict

Brazil
2322 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2004 :  06:25:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
I don't have a metal plate in my head (yet), sorry. Nor I ever wore braces. But I think it might be possible, in some rare special occasions... maybe it could be a good sci-fi story's theme... ummm...

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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moakley
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USA
1888 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2004 :  11:00:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Renae

The website: www.aaevp.com.



From: "A Brief Discussion About the safety of Communicating with the Other Side"

quote:
He wrote, “It is as though low grade intelligences come in on the emotionally disturbed ‘wave length' of the operator. Unless the mind is prepared through prayer or a spiritually motivated meditative period, one is apt to invite the wrong kind of communicants.”

They quoted a comment made by pioneer researcher Dr. Konstantin Raudive. Raudive said, “Transcommunication is not a hobby for people who can't cope with the realities of life.”

Sound advice, but I thought that everyone knew this.

Life is good

Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous
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satans_mom
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USA
148 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2004 :  16:10:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send satans_mom an AOL message  Send satans_mom a Yahoo! Message Send satans_mom a Private Message
You know, I actually had braces for a few years, up until last April when I had them removed. And come to think of it, I haven't heard the radio since!!!

This could me a mental mind-game, but I will not deny the fact that I sometimes heard radio signals. All in all, it's an interesting conversational point.

Yo mama's so fat, she's on both sides of the family.

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Siberia
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Brazil
2322 Posts

Posted - 11/13/2004 :  17:59:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
I wonder...

If braces channel radio signals... I ask... why? How? That is a very curious point...

(not saying it does But let's assume it does...)

Edited for 11pm stuffed-up-with-bbq coherence.

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
Edited by - Siberia on 11/13/2004 18:01:35
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9687 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  17:14:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
Radio signals through your bracers?

You seriously neet to rent a video: "Real Genius" (Val Kilmer, 1985)

Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3

"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse

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Ricky
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USA
4907 Posts

Posted - 11/14/2004 :  17:27:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Radio signals through your bracers?

You seriously neet to rent a video: "Real Genius" (Val Kilmer, 1985)




That is a great movie. I'm going to need to buy that sometime. It plays on Comedy Central once every blue moon.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
- Isaac Asimov
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Dave W.
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USA
26020 Posts

Posted - 12/18/2004 :  11:07:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
I finally saw the short trailer for the movie White Noise. The only web site I saw mentioned in the trailer was http://www.aaevp.com/ but strangely, it appears to be a legit 501(C)(3) organization. I mean the movie's website is http://www.whitenoisemovie.com/

Aaaah... The movie is partnered with the AA-EVP, and also with http://www.alienandspirit.com/

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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astropin
SFN Regular

USA
970 Posts

Posted - 12/18/2004 :  15:06:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send astropin a Private Message
I know this response is way late, but thats what you get for arriving at the theater 65 minutes early! Usually I show up about 10 minutes to show time....with my choice of seat. Of course I often wait a week before I go see a flik. Oh and White Noise looks preety dumb to me. About as bad as Godsend, or Signs etc...

I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.

You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.

Atheism:
The result of an unbiased and rational search for the truth.

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Siberia
SFN Addict

Brazil
2322 Posts

Posted - 12/18/2004 :  15:45:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
Signs... I kinda liked Signs, until the end. Then I didn't like it anymore.

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26020 Posts

Posted - 01/09/2005 :  01:00:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Okay, my wife dragged me to see White Noise on Friday night. I say "dragged me" because I expected it to do little but hype the EVP phenomenon as "real." But, even though I'd seen some trailers, and I glanced at the movie's web site, I somehow missed the fact that this is a horror film. Heck, I didn't even catch that it starred Michael Keaton.

It's rated PG-13, so the absolutely best part of the whole experience was the shrill screams of hundreds of 14-year-old girls every time something startling happened. And no matter what you might think about EVP, this film will make you jump out of your seat at least once, if you allow yourself to get involved with the story. I wound up, in the last half of the film, trying to "protect" myself from sudden adrenaline surges by trying to predict when the startling stuff would happen, and I was only successful once.

(Oh, and because the film was rated PG-13, the worst part of the whole experience was the near-constant chattering of 14-year-olds. There was even a security guard walking up and down the aisles for the whole film, telling kids to be quiet, and about 20 minutes from the end of the movie, someone was frustrated enough to shout "shut the hell up!" at a talkative group. The guard was amusing, actually. At one point, things were quiet, and he sorta hunkered down in the aisle near me to watch the film. Something scary happened, all the girls screamed, and a second later the guard was on his feet, muttering "damn, didn't think that was going to happen." He had a smile on his face, as he went to quiet the kids again, which said to me that he got caught by the film, too.)

Anyway, my big fear - that the film would be nothing but hype - turned out to be wrong. The EVP in the film is so easy to hear (and see - much of the plot revolves around images coming out of TV static) that it bears little relation to the "real" stuff I've heard. Except for some text at the beginning and end of the film, the story is easily treated as complete fiction, and even the most die-hard skeptic can feel free to suspend his/her disbelief. It's entertaining.

Though I'm not sure that it was entertaining enough to be worth the ticket price (this was the first film I'd seen in a theater in two years, I was shocked at the price increase). My wife and I agree that other actors could have done better than Keaton in the lead. And personally, given the premises of the film, they could have made it a zillion times scarier, so even though I jumped numerous times, I don't think it was scary enough.

To conclude, the film was good enough that I don't want to give anything away. White Noise is very much a regular horror film, and not something which overly "preaches" about EVP, which is what I figured it would. In that sense, the movie far exceeded my expectations.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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