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Siberia
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Posted - 11/07/2004 :  07:53:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
Shit, I wish I had that pocket change.
Seriously, man. Why not fund psychics, instead of, oh, stem cell research, which would benefit the entire world population? Nah, better to be in somebody's wildest dreams.

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beskeptigal
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Posted - 11/07/2004 :  11:21:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
It's physics/quantum mechanics research. Don't be so quick to take the news media non-science educated reporter's sound bite version.
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Siberia
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Posted - 11/07/2004 :  13:36:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
Well, what I saw from that space.com link was, they'd plans about physics, quantum mechanics and such, but ended picking psychic... oh well, makes me feel warmer inside.

Edited for coherence.

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Edited by - Siberia on 11/07/2004 13:38:41
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beskeptigal
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Posted - 11/07/2004 :  14:10:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
Just trying to keep things in perspective.
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Dude
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Posted - 11/07/2004 :  15:56:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
quote:
Unfortunately, despite a lot of very impressive math, he seems to settle on p-teleportation as the most likely recommendation for further study, saying

"P-Teleportation, if verified, would represent a phenomenon that could offer potential high-payoff military, intelligence and commercial applications. This phenomenon could generate a dramatic revolution in technology, which would result from a dramatic paradigm shift in science. Anomalies are the key to all paradigm shifts!"


p-teleportation is what this nutjob is calling psychic teleportation.

Can we get the person who authorized this research FIRED? Or atleast drawn and quartered?

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Ricky
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Posted - 11/07/2004 :  18:10:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

quote:
Unfortunately, despite a lot of very impressive math, he seems to settle on p-teleportation as the most likely recommendation for further study, saying

"P-Teleportation, if verified, would represent a phenomenon that could offer potential high-payoff military, intelligence and commercial applications. This phenomenon could generate a dramatic revolution in technology, which would result from a dramatic paradigm shift in science. Anomalies are the key to all paradigm shifts!"


p-teleportation is what this nutjob is calling psychic teleportation.

Can we get the person who authorized this research FIRED? Or atleast drawn and quartered?



Did he ever say its the most likely one? Did he every say that this is the one they will be investigating the most? No, he just said that this is the one that if found to be true would have the most benefit. That statement is completely true. If you could transport something without some sort of cross-dimensonal wormhole and a "stargate" and other expensive equipment. If you could just do it magically, this would be the largest benefit.

I think the entire thing is crazy, thats just the worst part of it.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 11/08/2004 :  09:26:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Per the report, the recommendation is that vm-teleportation get two $80K studies, to determine future funding, as does c-teleportation. The recommendation for q-teleportation is for a variety of programs totaling up to almost $50 million over the next five or six years. And p-teleportation - the psychic one - gets a one-year $80K definition study, followed by up to $7.5 million over the five years after that.

Because of the lack of citation of articles describing the shortfalls of the research into telekinesis and other phenomena (and they are numerous), the author of the report obviously believes that psychic teleportation happens, and is a worthwhile research program.

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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 11/08/2004 :  12:51:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Robert Carroll's view on this subject:
FAS' s Steven Aftergood, in a bit of understatement, said that the teleportation report "raises questions of scientific quality control at the Air Force."

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