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tkster
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USA
193 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2005 :  10:36:41  Show Profile Send tkster a Private Message
So what do you think?





tk

tomk80
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Netherlands
1278 Posts

Posted - 01/06/2005 :  12:32:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
lookin' good

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26014 Posts

Posted - 01/22/2005 :  23:40:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Hey, tk, I'm not sure how blatant plagiarism is at all satiric:
Since you can use cows to explain pretty much anything, I explained many of the following religions, political views and the like below. Have fun reading!

FEUDALISM
You have two cows. Your lord takes some of the milk.

PURE SOCIALISM
You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. You have to take care of all the cows. The government gives you a glass of milk.
Etc, etc.

Google only returns 636 results for that precise description of feudalism, so I'm sure you actually wrote it yourself. Actually, it looks like all you did was leave off the last four items from this page.

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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard

USA
4574 Posts

Posted - 02/08/2005 :  21:34:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

Hey, tk, I'm not sure how blatant plagiarism is at all satiric.
Yeah, that email's been around for years. tk, you actually claimed to have written that? Wow. I mean, from glancing over your web site it does seem you are hard up for ideas, but I'm pretty sure taking credit for someone's else writing should have been covered on the first day of Journalism class. Can that sort of unethical behavior be expected in all of your endeavors?

And I like the gay bashing on that page as well, where you put your snide comments in brackets with lots of exclamation points! What a hoot!!!!
quote:
Quotes and Stories
“Gay marriage should be allowed because it doesn't hurt you or me.”
[And neither does bestiality, incest, or pedophile!]

Yes, because marriage between two loving individuals is just like incest! What a witty reply! You're a comedy gold mine!


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 02/08/2005 21:40:58
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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 02/08/2005 :  22:33:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by H. Humbert

Yes, because marriage between two loving individuals is just like incest!
Well, to hijack this for a possibly decent discussion (and seeing as how there are now two tk threads active), the key is really consenting individuals. I mean, someone could claim that they're in a "loving" relationship with their dog, sister, and/or five-year-old neighbor, but only the sister will be likely to be able to provide a thoughtful and rational agreement to such a characterization. Hell, I don't even have a problem with polygamous marriages so long as everyone involved is on record as agreeing to it (in other words, the laws against bigamy are just fine).

And, of course, I don't see many people lobbying the government to overturn anti-incest laws, and I don't see how one could base such a position upon legalized gay marriage, since the two are based upon two completely different premises.

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tkster
Skeptic Friend

USA
193 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2005 :  09:18:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send tkster a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by H. Humbert

And I like the gay bashing on that page as well


Gay bashing? Did you read:

quote:
“Gay marriage should be allowed because it doesn't hurt you or me.” [And neither does bestiality, incest, or pedophile!]


That is not bashing gays, rather showing how poor of an argument that is. Saying "this doesn't hurt you individually so it should be allowed" could be applied accross the board.

quote:
where you put your snide comments in brackets with lots of exclamation points! What a hoot!!!!


Nevermind, you can't read. There's only one exclamation point, how does that add up to "lots" as you claimed?

The Skeptic Times is not a politically correct newsletter and never claims to be. I have made fun of many different groups. The instance you listed, however, is not bashing gays, rather showing a poor argument used by some of the advocates of gays.

tk
Edited by - tkster on 02/09/2005 09:19:21
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie

USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2005 :  09:37:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by tkster

quote:
Originally posted by H. Humbert

And I like the gay bashing on that page as well


Gay bashing? Did you read:

quote:
“Gay marriage should be allowed because it doesn't hurt you or me.” [And neither does bestiality, incest, or pedophile!]


That is not bashing gays, rather showing how poor of an argument that is. Saying "this doesn't hurt you individually so it should be allowed" could be applied accross the board.

quote:
where you put your snide comments in brackets with lots of exclamation points! What a hoot!!!!


Nevermind, you can't read. There's only one exclamation point, how does that add up to "lots" as you claimed?

The Skeptic Times is not a politically correct newsletter and never claims to be. I have made fun of many different groups. The instance you listed, however, is not bashing gays, rather showing a poor argument used by some of the advocates of gays.

tk



The strong point posited by proponents of legalizing gay marriage and by the moderate gay advocacy groups is that a committed family unit which can be formed between consenting adults of the same sex deserve the same benefits and strictures available to heterosexual couples. As it does not harm the participants in the committed relationship and does not harm society in general, it should be allowed. Bestiality, incest, and pediophilia harms one or both of the participants and should not be allowed. Lawrence v Texas draws this line quite clearly. I am concerned that you do not see that.

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tkster
Skeptic Friend

USA
193 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2005 :  09:58:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send tkster a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
The strong point posited by proponents of legalizing gay marriage and by the moderate gay advocacy groups is that a committed family unit which can be formed between consenting adults of the same sex deserve the same benefits and strictures available to heterosexual couples. As it does not harm the participants in the committed relationship and does not harm society in general, it should be allowed. Bestiality, incest, and pediophilia harms one or both of the participants and should not be allowed. Lawrence v Texas draws this line quite clearly. I am concerned that you do not see that.



That's a more valid argument. However, in the Skeptic Times dumb quotes, I was responding to the person who directly said “Gay marriage should be allowed because it doesn't hurt you or me." I never said in my newsletter that there weren't any good arguments in favor of gay marriage at all.

An example of this, as one who is pro-life, if a pro-lifer said "we should stop abortion because God hates it!" They would be in my newsletter as well. The reason is because the argument is what is poor, even if I agree that abortion is wrong.

tk
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astropin
SFN Regular

USA
970 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2005 :  10:36:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send astropin a Private Message
tkster, you are obviously (or is that hopefully) someone who is still in the middle of finding yourself. There appears to be room for allot of maturity to take place. I hope you stick around this site for awhile. I think in ten years or so you will look back with at least some mild, if not more, embarrassment at some of the things you have done, thought, said, etc... (but then again haven't we all). When I was in my early twenties I thought I had it mostly figured out. Boy was I wrong! My views (and knowledge) have change more since college than I ever could have imagined. I'm not slammin' you tk, I'm just saying I think you need to reflect more on your choices and actions....before you make/take them.

I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.

You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.

Atheism:
The result of an unbiased and rational search for the truth.

Infinitus est numerus stultorum
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 02/09/2005 :  11:03:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
quote:
I'm just saying I think you need to reflect more on your choices and actions....before you make/take them.


Good advice for every human on the planet, without exception.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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