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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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 Posted - 09/13/2001 : 13:06:51
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There are e-mails and posts on BBS's claiming that these events are foretold in the writings of Nostradameus. Turns out, it's a hoax.
http://www.msnbc.com/news/628417.asp
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
13476 Posts |
 Posted - 09/13/2001 : 21:51:52 [Permalink]
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More on this. Oh, and I got one of those emails...
Did Nostradamus really predict New York attack?
By Geert De Clercq
SINGAPORE, Sept 13 (Reuters) - Internet chat rooms are abuzz with talk that 16th century French astrologer Nostradamus forecast the attack on the World Trade Center in New York.
Thousands of people have received e-mails containing this prophecy, often with a second part forecasting that the attack on the twin towers will mark the beginning of World War III.
Several versions are doing the rounds. This is one of them:
"In the year of the new century and nine months
From the sky will come a great King of Terror
The sky will burn at forty-five degrees
Fire approaches the new city."
The text corresponds roughly to a verse in Nostradamus's Century (section) Six, Quatrain 97. Several books on Nostradamus have speculated that this quatrain's first line refers to September 2001, the ninth month in the first year of the new century, while the 45 degrees is interpreted as the latitude of the city of New York.
But New York lies just below 41 degrees latitude and Nostradamus's verse does not mention a great war, contrary to what several e-mails say. In many e-mails, the verse comes with a second part, which seems harder to link to Nostradamus:
"In the city of York there will be a great collapse
Two twin brothers torn apart by chaos
While the fortress falls the great leader will succumb
Third big war will begin when the big city is burning."
HOAXSTRADAMUS?
"(This second quatrain) is NOT by Nostradamus," read a statement on www.nostradamus-repository.org, a Web site for Nostradamus study.
Hoax or not, various versions of the verse are being forwarded by the thousands every day.
"Initially, I was really sceptical, but I went to the web to look up something on (Nostradamus). Some prophecies have come true," Agnes Ng, a 23-year old Singaporean accountancy student, told Reuters on Thursday.
She received one of the prophecies in an e-mail from a friend. Before forwarding the message to her contacts, she posted a copy on Usenet newsgroup alt.prophecies.nostradamus. The e-mail she received was even more specific, forecasting that:
"The big war will begin when the big city is burning
on the 11th day of the 9th month that...
two metal birds would crash into two tall statues
in the new city and the world will end soon after."
One of the newsgroup contributors who goes by the e-mail moniker of "Justaguy" said this was a fake.
"It has been posted ad nauseam," he said.
Nostradamus prophecies surface after nearly every major news event. False or real, they struck a chord in Singapore.
Bookstore salespeople told Reuters there had been strong demand for books on Nostradamus since Tuesday's attacks.
03:16 09-13-01
The Evil Skeptic
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ronnywhite
SFN Regular
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Posted - 09/13/2001 : 23:08:28 [Permalink]
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The Nostradamus stuff is a curiously vague mishmash (kind of like the Bible) and I more admire and am impressed by the creative efforts of those who bother to interpret it with such imagination than I do the source. It seems pretty pointless to me, but it the results are entertaining.
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Rift
Skeptic Friend
USA
333 Posts |
Posted - 09/13/2001 : 23:25:17 [Permalink]
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I read Randi's "Mask of Nostradamus" just a few weeks ago.
I thought Nostradamus was full of crap before, but after reading something written by somebody who has done real research into it (including traveling to Nostradamus' home town), I simply find it bewildering and sad that anybody would believe this hogwash.
"Goddammit! The world is just filling up with more and more idiots! And the computer is giving them access to the world! They're
spreading their stupidity! At least they were contained before--now they're on the loose everywhere!"? |
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I Doubt It
New Member
USA
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Posted - 09/14/2001 : 05:25:33 [Permalink]
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As a skeptic, I feel my job is to squash these rumours as best I can so I sent out an email to my close friends and family who might get this email and I'm posting links and arguments on other postboards. We have to dispute it. It's disgusting.
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