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latinijral
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Posted - 03/13/2005 :  11:32:52  Show Profile Send latinijral a Private Message
I see some coincidende between the skpeticism with cults.

We can make the difference, dear skpetics friends.



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Gorgo
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Posted - 03/13/2005 :  11:52:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
No coincidende, anti-skpetic amgio.

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The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
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R.Wreck
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USA
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Posted - 03/13/2005 :  12:05:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
yawn...........zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz........

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filthy
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Posted - 03/13/2005 :  12:29:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

I see some coincidende between the skpeticism with cults.

We can make the difference, dear skpetics friends.


So what if it is?

And you will make no diference at all because all you have to contribute is blather. This time, you sound rather like the Christian fundies of various stripes. They, having nothing but fantasy with which to argue, claim that evolution is a religion. With practice and rehearsal, you and they could could possibly come up with an acceptable harmoney. If you learn some show tunes, you might could play 'Vegas.

Oh well, what the hell; it's a slow day.... Present your (sigh) reasons and evidence that slepticism of any sort might be considered a cult.




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Siberia
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Brazil
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Posted - 03/13/2005 :  12:35:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy

quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

I see some coincidende between the skpeticism with cults.

We can make the difference, dear skpetics friends.


So what if it is?

And you will make no diference at all because all you have to contribute is blather. This time, you sound rather like the Christian fundies of various stripes. They, having nothing but fantasy with which to argue, claim that evolution is a religion. With practice and rehearsal, you and they could could possibly come up with an acceptable harmoney. If you learn some show tunes, you might could play 'Vegas.

Oh well, what the hell; it's a slow day.... Present your (sigh) reasons and evidence that slepticism of any sort might be considered a cult.






Alas, I suppose hope is indeed the last to die. Hope, delusion, and a fervent need to crave attention. Why do we even bother? I'm bored, and waiting for Apophysis finish rendering.

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Dr. Mabuse
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Sweden
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Posted - 03/13/2005 :  13:11:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

I see some coincidende between the skpeticism with cults.

Really? What evidence do you have of this?

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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
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Posted - 03/13/2005 :  13:57:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

I see some coincidende between the skpeticism with cults.

We can make the difference, dear skpetics friends.



Still going after the old skepticism? If you have started this thread without the intention of defining the "new skepticism" first, this thread will be locked before the sun goes down in California.

In order to point out the flaws of skepticism, which there may be, it seems to me that it would be necessary to define your stated but yet to be defined alternative. You will make no headway at SFN in your campaign for further your cause until you first finish what you have started.

I will close every thread you open until you define The New Skepticism.

If you can't hang with that, feel free to move on

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4954 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2005 :  15:03:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kil
I will close every thread you open until you define The New Skepticism.

If you can't hang with that, feel free to move on


Finally! I, for one, anxiously await learning what this New Skepticism is...
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filthy
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USA
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Posted - 03/13/2005 :  15:08:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Cuneiformist

quote:
Originally posted by Kil
I will close every thread you open until you define The New Skepticism.

If you can't hang with that, feel free to move on


Finally! I, for one, anxiously await learning what this New Skepticism is...

I'll bet a dollar against a stale goat dropping that you ain't gonna find out.


"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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R.Wreck
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USA
1191 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2005 :  15:09:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Cuneiformist:

quote:
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Originally posted by Kil
I will close every thread you open until you define The New Skepticism.

If you can't hang with that, feel free to move on
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Finally! I, for one, anxiously await learning what this New Skepticism is...


Hope you've got something to pass the time while you're waiting.

The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley

The Cattle Prod of Enlightened Compassion
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tomk80
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Netherlands
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Posted - 03/13/2005 :  15:44:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
Just thought I'd copy this from the Uri thread, so it might get through to Latinijral. Just thought I'd add my own language too.


What is the 'new skepticism' and what qualifies you to be it's father?

Cul es "el nuevo escepticismo", y qu le califica ser su padre?

Que so "o skepticism novo", e o que qualifica-o ser seu pai?

Quel est "le nouveau scepticisme", et ce qui vous qualifie tre son pre ?

Che cosa "il nuovo scetticismo" e che cosa li qualifica essere il relativo padre?


Was ist "die neue Skepsis", und was qualifiziert Sie, sein Vater zu sein?

O que "novo ceticismo", e o que o qualifica como pai?

Vad r "den nya skepticismen", och vad kvalificerar dig till att vara dess fader?

Wat is het "nieuwe skepticisme" en wat kwalificeert jouw als de vader ervan?

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
Edited by - tomk80 on 03/13/2005 15:45:48
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R.Wreck
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USA
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Posted - 03/13/2005 :  16:34:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
What kinda shiznit is da "new skepticism", and what qualifies yo ass to be its mutha and shit, you know what I'm sayin?

The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley

The Cattle Prod of Enlightened Compassion
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tomk80
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Netherlands
1278 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2005 :  17:39:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by R.Wreck

What kinda shiznit is da "new skepticism", and what qualifies yo ass to be its mutha and shit, you know what I'm sayin?


Universal translators are fun. Here are some translations around a familiar theme

What be da 'new skepticism' 'n what qualifies yo' ass to be it be father?

Wot der fook is der 'new skepticism' 'n wot qualifies yer bastard well to be iss father?

What 1Z th3 'n3w Zk3pt1c1Zm' and what qua|1f13Z y0u t0 b3 1t'Z fath3r?

What is smurfily the 'new skepticism' and what qualifies you to be it's father?

What am thar dang 'new skepticism' 'n wut qualifies y'all tuh bay it bay father?

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
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Ricky
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Posted - 03/13/2005 :  20:07:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

I see some coincidende between the skpeticism with cults.

We can make the difference, dear skpetics friends.



Would you mind saying what those are instead of making a broad general statement with out any evidence to back it up?

I seem to remember a quote from another post:

quote:
Keep your arguments as abstract and theoretical as possible.


http://www.skepticfriends.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4036&whichpage=2

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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latinijral
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Posted - 03/13/2005 :  20:27:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send latinijral a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kil

quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

I see some coincidende between the skpeticism with cults.

We can make the difference, dear skpetics friends.



Still going after the old skepticism? If you have started this thread without the intention of defining the "new skepticism" first, this thread will be locked before the sun goes down in California.

In order to point out the flaws of skepticism, which there may be, it seems to me that it would be necessary to define your stated but yet to be defined alternative. You will make no headway at SFN in your campaign for further your cause until you first finish what you have started.

I will close every thread you open until you define The New Skepticism.

If you can't hang with that, feel free to move on




Under what rule you will close my thread?
Under your piss off rule?
Start a topic about your curiosity.

Thi is about something else.
Stay on topic loser.

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latinijral
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197 Posts

Posted - 03/13/2005 :  20:30:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send latinijral a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ricky

quote:
Originally posted by latinijral

I see some coincidende between the skpeticism with cults.

We can make the difference, dear skpetics friends.



Would you mind saying what those are instead of making a broad general statement with out any evidence to back it up?

I seem to remember a quote from another post:

quote:
Keep your arguments as abstract and theoretical as possible.


http://www.skepticfriends.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4036&whichpage=2



http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=f5d7b9116c7763c1845e2e9fa0391386&threadid=14066

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