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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 03/15/2005 :  10:43:09  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
I'm sure I'm not the only person to see how often, and effectively, the republican party manages to change word connotations and demonize people or groups in the general public consciousness.

One that seriously pisses me off, even more than their managing to turn liberal into a negative word, is their use of the term "activist judge". This little terror tactic is meant to scare judges away from making controversial rulings. It is an attempt to subvert the legal system and destroy the very basis of laws.

I can only blame the general stupidity of the populace for this one. The history of common law is, if very briefly, supposed to be covered in any American Government class. Such classes are required in order to graduate from highschool and required again to earn an associates degree in most places.

So if there are any republicans out there who get angry at the thought of those god damned "activist judges", please... I beg you, click this link and read up on what common law is! Please learn that judges have made decisions that effect laws, that create laws, and that remove unjust laws, since the begining of our legal system! It's their fucking job!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law


And then, perhaps, you can answer a simple question.

Why is it that you don't label judges who rule in ways you like as activist? Why have none of you ever called Judge Roy (of the 10 commandments monument fame) an activist judge? Why do you ONLY call a judge activist if they make some ruling that opposes the republican and neo-con agenda?


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-- Thomas Jefferson

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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard

3192 Posts

Posted - 03/15/2005 :  14:10:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Just give up, thats what I did. {Papa and those behind him nod their heads in unison} "..and we're all happy now..."

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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Valiant Dancer
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USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 03/15/2005 :  15:06:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

I'm sure I'm not the only person to see how often, and effectively, the republican party manages to change word connotations and demonize people or groups in the general public consciousness.

One that seriously pisses me off, even more than their managing to turn liberal into a negative word, is their use of the term "activist judge". This little terror tactic is meant to scare judges away from making controversial rulings. It is an attempt to subvert the legal system and destroy the very basis of laws.

I can only blame the general stupidity of the populace for this one. The history of common law is, if very briefly, supposed to be covered in any American Government class. Such classes are required in order to graduate from highschool and required again to earn an associates degree in most places.

So if there are any republicans out there who get angry at the thought of those god damned "activist judges", please... I beg you, click this link and read up on what common law is! Please learn that judges have made decisions that effect laws, that create laws, and that remove unjust laws, since the begining of our legal system! It's their fucking job!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_law


And then, perhaps, you can answer a simple question.

Why is it that you don't label judges who rule in ways you like as activist? Why have none of you ever called Judge Roy (of the 10 commandments monument fame) an activist judge? Why do you ONLY call a judge activist if they make some ruling that opposes the republican and neo-con agenda?





You aren't. The problem is now that they've labled a judge from California who struck down the Gay marriage ban as both a liberal and an activist.

Here's the problem. He's a Republican and Catholic. He just didn't let his belief interfere with the law. Just remember that when they bandy the name of Richard Kramer around in derisive terms.

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/n/a/2005/03/14/state/n162642S50.DTL

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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard

USA
3834 Posts

Posted - 03/16/2005 :  14:28:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
Speaking of activist judges, if you care, call your two Senators today to voice an objection to the ramrodding of 6 unwanted federal judges through confirmation by changing Senate rules. Moveon.org has organized a one day call in to show the Senate the minority needs to be respected. Their slim margin of victory shouldn't give them the right to suppress dissent.
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Starman
SFN Regular

Sweden
1613 Posts

Posted - 03/21/2005 :  02:13:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

He just didn't let his belief interfere with the law.
I thought that was what the fundies meant with activist judge.
Does anyone doubt that these people would prefer to live in a (fundie christian) theocracy?

"Any religion that makes a form of torture into an icon that they worship seems to me a pretty sick sort of religion quite honestly"
-- Terry Jones
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NubiWan
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USA
424 Posts

Posted - 03/22/2005 :  22:20:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send NubiWan a Private Message
Isn't the whole Terry Schiavo play by the republicans, an appeal for just such an "activist judge!?!" Ahh but then hypocrisy has become the primary tool of the current crop of republicans.

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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard

USA
3834 Posts

Posted - 03/26/2005 :  17:46:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by NubiWan

Isn't the whole Terry Schiavo play by the republicans, an appeal for just such an "activist judge!?!" Ahh but then hypocrisy has become the primary tool of the current crop of republicans.

Yes. And we might want to prepare for the battle. Like emphasizing how sane the judiciary remained despite all the legislative and executive loss of common sense.
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