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filthy
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Posted - 03/21/2005 :  12:52:26  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
I will never cease to be amazed at the lengths life will go for survival.
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The most fascinating of the microbes are known as archaea, a class that can thrive in the most extreme of temperatures and that is believed to be the most primitive of all living things -- perhaps the very first living organisms on Earth. Archaean fossils have been found in ancient landforms that some scientists date as far back as 3.8 billion years ago, which means that they may have appeared barely a billion years after the planet was formed.

Those organisms, the scientists believe, may provide clues to the kinds of life that might once have existed on Mars, when that planet could have been warm and wet and hospitable, or on Europa, the intriguing moon of Jupiter, whose thick ice crust covers a vast ocean where the deep waters could be heated by radioactive elements near the planet's core.

Rachel Haymon, a marine geologist at UC Santa Barbara, and her colleagues have been exploring the hydrothermal vents of a long chain of mid-ocean ridges called the East Pacific Rise for more than a decade. Heat-loving microbes there, called hyperthermophiles, can resist temperatures as high as 750 degrees Fahrenheit at the small, "black smoker" volcanoes.

Abiogenesis in hydrothermal vents 3.5+ bya? Could be, could be.






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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 03/21/2005 :  13:36:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
I still prefer the toad which freezes completely and then thaws again in spring good to go... more personality, although microbes are amazing in every way.

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Plyss
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Posted - 03/21/2005 :  15:56:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Plyss a Private Message
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

I still prefer the toad which freezes completely and then thaws again in spring good to go... more personality, although microbes are amazing in every way.



Ugh, multicellular life is so messy. My personal favourite weird organism is Deinococcus radiodurans. This little creature is so resistant against ionising radiation that it thrives after receiving a dosis a thousand times stronger then required to kill a human.
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Plyss
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Posted - 03/21/2005 :  16:04:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Plyss a Private Message
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Originally posted by filthy

I will never cease to be amazed at the lengths life will go for survival.



Personally, i'd love to know what kind of acyl chains these critters use in their membranes. I imagine they'd require high degrees of saturation and high concentrations of sterols to keep them from melting. Also their genomes are likely highly enriched in CG-base pairs over AT ones, as to prevent random dissociation of their DNA. Their proteome probably contains some neat tricks as well, possible with industrial use.

Many biotech companies are looking for ways to stabilise proteins so they can be used in things like washing powders or in catalytic reactors at elevated temperature. These organisms might yield some fascinating evolutionary solutions to such problems.
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