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Ricky
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Posted - 02/28/2005 :  02:33:23  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
In case anyone isn't following The Skeptic Times, here is some more BS that tksgurl is saying about ccdi9.

Has any one heard of micro-proteinoids? I think they were discovered right after the speed of dark.

Edit:

But apparently proteinoids do exist, and they have to do something with evolution.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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Edited by - Ricky on 02/28/2005 02:37:20

tomk80
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Posted - 02/28/2005 :  03:46:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
So I ran some searches on ccdi9 (IIRC I did that before). Google gives threads were people are asking what ccdi9 actually is as a result. Medline and Pubmed give nothing.

As an interesting aside, CCDI stands for chinese child development inventory, I got a number of references on child development when I typed that in on Medline
Seems to me that it be time for her to get her terms straight.

Tom

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Dave W.
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Posted - 02/28/2005 :  06:59:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
And Google only finds "biochasm" as the title of a poem. And isn't it great how Hannah claims to actually be a biochemist?

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tkster
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Posted - 02/28/2005 :  11:52:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send tkster a Private Message
Weird, I didn't know people still went to my now guestbook.

tk
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furshur
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Posted - 02/28/2005 :  12:04:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send furshur a Private Message
Tk said
quote:
Weird, I didn't know people still went to my now guestbook.

I have no idea what this means, but I do know that this is not the point of the thread.

Tk, would it be possible for you to ask tksgirl to give at least a little more information as to what she is talking about or do you think she is just making all this CCDI stuff up too?


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Cuneiformist
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Posted - 02/28/2005 :  12:40:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
Her post actually made me laugh out loud-- it's hilarious. I don't know if this is a joke or some sort of code, but something like this
quote:
An interesting substance we've stumbled accross other than ccdi9, has been the actually family of such micro-proteinoids machine combinations. Anyway, given:

Code:
x - x
y - y
z - z


We should expect to see stages of x - x - y, but rather we don't see such combinations. Is the possibility of x to y too great?
is too funny.

quote:
Of course, we always find the basic five in nature:

Code:
x - x - x - x - x
y - y - y - y - y
z - z - z - z - z



Of course!!!
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 02/28/2005 :  15:11:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by tkster

Weird, I didn't know people still went to my now guestbook.

tk

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Plyss
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Posted - 02/28/2005 :  16:08:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Plyss a Private Message
Found this on google on proteinoids and their possible role in evolution.

Still, tksgurl's post doesn't make much sense to me.
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Ricky
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Posted - 02/28/2005 :  16:25:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Plyss

Found this on google on proteinoids and their possible role in evolution.

Still, tksgurl's post doesn't make much sense to me.



Congratulations, you are sane.

Very nice link.

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tkster
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Posted - 03/01/2005 :  07:02:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send tkster a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by furshur

Tk said
quote:
Weird, I didn't know people still went to my now guestbook.

I have no idea what this means, but I do know that this is not the point of the thread.

Tk, would it be possible for you to ask tksgirl to give at least a little more information as to what she is talking about or do you think she is just making all this CCDI stuff up too?



Just a point: My name is tk, I hate caps in my name.

That being said, this doesn't bug me because:

1. Either she's making this up.
2. Or she has information which no one understands that means nothing to me anyway.

If I don't see this information published in some journal in the future, I'll just assume she's pulling it out of her ass. The point being that I have no clue what a proteinoid or biochasm is, or anything else. And if no one else knows, then either she's making it all up, or the next fucking Einstein.

My bet is on the first option.

tk
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 03/01/2005 :  07:53:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
Given that the question about the existance of CCDI9 have been asked to experts in the field, and they just stared dumbfolded, I have no doubt it is option 1.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 03/01/2005 :  14:07:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Not only that, Mab, but some of her previously posted "equations" were looked at by professionals in the field, who said they were meaningless junk.

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Hawks
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Posted - 03/01/2005 :  15:56:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Hawks's Homepage Send Hawks a Private Message
Instead of searching through individual websites that publish scientific literature online (eg Pubmed), I like scholar.google.com
It basically searches all online journals (just like google, but without returning all the weird stuff). And, no, there are no hits for ccdi9 or biochasm.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 03/01/2005 :  16:37:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Thanks, Hawks. Google Scholar is very nice. Cool slogan, too.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 03/17/2005 :  21:18:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Oh, holy crap.

Yeah, I had to go look at this again, out of a morbid curiosity.

Turns out that Hannah, when asked about "micro-proteinoids," claims to have discovered them. She says the whole "ccdi9" thing is her hypothesis, and her PhD work, and implies that's why none of this stuff can be found on the Web.

To anyone with an inside knowledge of how doctorate-level work is done: does this make any sense at all? Do doctoral candidates often invent at least two new terms for the things they're working on? Or is Hannah making herself out to be the next freakin' Einstein (of biochemistry)?

To tk: give us the scoop on Hannah's actual college status, please. I was led to believe she's about your age, but she's implying that she's got at least five more years of higher education than you. All the grad students at TTU seem to be on the various web pages, but the only Hannah listed is (if I remember correctly) working towards a master's degree within the school of agriculture. Or does Hannah (your Hannah) not go to TTU?

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Dude
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Posted - 03/18/2005 :  00:55:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Doctorate level research is done in conjunction with a group of scientists who guide/assist you. Generally referred to as a Major Professor and Supervisory Committee.

Typically your PhD work is done in the same field as your primary advisor/Major professor.

When you defend a dissertation, you must earn unanimous approval from the review panel also.


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