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pleco
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Posted - 05/04/2005 :  07:34:26  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
Any of you see it? Did you like it?

I liked the movie for the most part...I though a few scenes were unfinished and kinda of shoved in, but overall it was worth it. Zaphod and Marvin stole the show.

I wish they had added the Guide entry about how the babelfish is used as the proof of the non-existence of god....

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Posted - 05/04/2005 :  08:18:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by pleco

Any of you see it? Did you like it?

I liked the movie for the most part...I though a few scenes were unfinished and kinda of shoved in, but overall it was worth it. Zaphod and Marvin stole the show.

I wish they had added the Guide entry about how the babelfish is used as the proof of the non-existence of god....

Asking too much. Hollywood fears that they might offend some humorless believer. Who ever said such a thing on screen would have to die justly and horribly, later in the flick to keep the devout panties untwisted.

I've been a Hitchiker since the first novel -- ah Doug, how we miss ya!

I'm looking forward to seeing it when it comes out on DVD, and would like to read some reports on it.


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pleco
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Posted - 05/04/2005 :  08:28:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
I also am a diehard Adams fan, having read all of his books (including the non HG books) many times.

IMHO, the movie was a good attempt at putting to film that which I didn't think would translate well. While it has some rough spots, overall it was quite enjoyable.

I would like to think they would continue the trilogy with The Restaurant at the End of the Universe...the movie cost 45 mil to make. The first weekend it brought in 21 million.

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Dude
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Posted - 05/04/2005 :  09:55:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
It wasn't to bad. They just didn't capture the real essence of Adam's humor in some places though. In his books there is amazing byplay between the characters, and the dialogue leaves you in stitches.

But there is no way they could really fit it all into a 2hour movie, I guess.

Not to be to harsh on the movie. It was enjoyable overall, and they did alot of things right. The Guide scenes are awesome.

The biggest problem I had with the movie is, as I said, the characterizations. Zaphod isn't supposed to be so stupid, he's supposed to be too cool to care. The way they did his heads was pretty amusing though, a vast improvement over the old TV show. Arthur is a little too agressive, and they add some dumb-ass romance between Arthur and Trillian and Zaphod.

Overall it is worth seeing. I suspect I am just being overly fannish and critical.


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Dave W.
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Posted - 05/04/2005 :  11:26:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

...and they add some dumb-ass romance between Arthur and Trillian and Zaphod.
Well, there was a hint of that in the original BBC radio broadcasts.

When Arthur is getting introduced to Zaphod, it turns out they'd met before. At a party, Arthur was chatting up Trisha McMillan (later known as Trillian), when Zaphod, "with only two arms, just the one head, and calling himself Phil" swooped in with some smooth talk about being an alien and stole her away from Arthur. Arthur was still rather bitter about it.

Now, considering that some stuff from the original broadcasts got cut out in the first American radio broadcasts, only to later show up again - expanded - in the books, the TV show, or the albums, it would be completely "in character" for the entire series for this "romance" to pop up in the movie and become more than it was.

(Boy, talk about fannish...)

But I haven't seen the movie yet.

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pleco
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Posted - 05/04/2005 :  11:30:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dude

It wasn't to bad. They just didn't capture the real essence of Adam's humor in some places though. In his books there is amazing byplay between the characters, and the dialogue leaves you in stitches.

But there is no way they could really fit it all into a 2hour movie, I guess.

Not to be to harsh on the movie. It was enjoyable overall, and they did alot of things right. The Guide scenes are awesome.

The biggest problem I had with the movie is, as I said, the characterizations. Zaphod isn't supposed to be so stupid, he's supposed to be too cool to care. The way they did his heads was pretty amusing though, a vast improvement over the old TV show. Arthur is a little too agressive, and they add some dumb-ass romance between Arthur and Trillian and Zaphod.

Overall it is worth seeing. I suspect I am just being overly fannish and critical.





I too thought the romance part and Arthur's "heroism" was a little out of place...but I defer since I've heard that most of the screen play was written by Douglas Adams before he died.

Personally I thought Zaphod (played by Sam Rockwell) did come off as a bit zany, but basically that he was totally enamored with himself as to not pay attention to what was going on around him (don't want to give too much away).

Marvin (voiced by Alan Rickman) was perfect.

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Dude
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Posted - 05/04/2005 :  12:06:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
quote:
but I defer since I've heard that most of the screen play was written by Douglas Adams before he died.



Adams wrote a rough draft of the screenplay. Some other person who I have never heard of before wrote the final draft.


Again, it is worth seeing. Just with any movie adaptation of a book there will be some things that please, and some that don't.


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Posted - 05/04/2005 :  13:20:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
I have the tapes of the TV show. They're pretty funky and try to cover the entire trilogy (snicker) but still are among my favorites.


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Hawks
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Posted - 05/04/2005 :  14:03:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Hawks's Homepage Send Hawks a Private Message
I have fond memories of reading the trilogy (I must admit though that I found the fourth book too annoying, and quit halfway through). I haven't seen the movie, but some people seem less than fond of it, especially this guy. And alledgedly, they've cut out my favorite (and oh so profound) quote from the book: "The ships hung in the air, the exact same way that bricks don't". What a shame.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 05/04/2005 :  18:57:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
From the original scripts:
ARTHUR: At this party there was a girl. I'd had my eye on her for weeks... beautiful, chamring, devestatingly intelligent, everything I'd been saving myself up for, and just when I'd finally managed to get her for myself for a few tender moments this friend of yours barges up and says 'Hey doll, is this guy boring you, come and talk to me, I'm from a different planet'. I never saw her again.

FORD: Zaphod?

ARTHUR: Yes, he only had the two arms and the one head and he called himself Phil, but...

F/X: DOOR OPENS

TRILLIAN: ...but you have to admit that he did actually turn out to be from a different planet, Arthur.

ARTHUR: Good God, it's her! Tricia McMillan, what are you doing here?
A note at the end of that episode:
The line about [Zaphod's] extra head was put in as a little extra throwaway joke which was to cause enormous headaches (sic) when the show transferred to television. The extra head cost about twice as much as Mark [Wing-Davey] himself (though he thinks that was fair enough becase it gave a better performance than he did!) In fact much of the time the head didn't function properly and used to loll on his shoulder looking up at him, often ending up being operated by a man with his hand up Mark's back.
Oh, and I love this exchange from early in that episode:
ARTHUR: You know, it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young.

FORD: Why, what did she tell you?

ARTHUR: I don't know, I didn't listen.
Did they keep that in the film?

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filthy
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Posted - 05/04/2005 :  23:15:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

From the original scripts:
ARTHUR: At this party there was a girl. I'd had my eye on her for weeks... beautiful, chamring, devestatingly intelligent, everything I'd been saving myself up for, and just when I'd finally managed to get her for myself for a few tender moments this friend of yours barges up and says 'Hey doll, is this guy boring you, come and talk to me, I'm from a different planet'. I never saw her again.

FORD: Zaphod?

ARTHUR: Yes, he only had the two arms and the one head and he called himself Phil, but...

F/X: DOOR OPENS

TRILLIAN: ...but you have to admit that he did actually turn out to be from a different planet, Arthur.

ARTHUR: Good God, it's her! Tricia McMillan, what are you doing here?
A note at the end of that episode:
The line about [Zaphod's] extra head was put in as a little extra throwaway joke which was to cause enormous headaches (sic) when the show transferred to television. The extra head cost about twice as much as Mark [Wing-Davey] himself (though he thinks that was fair enough becase it gave a better performance than he did!) In fact much of the time the head didn't function properly and used to loll on his shoulder looking up at him, often ending up being operated by a man with his hand up Mark's back.
Oh, and I love this exchange from early in that episode:
ARTHUR: You know, it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep space that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was young.

FORD: Why, what did she tell you?

ARTHUR: I don't know, I didn't listen.
Did they keep that in the film?
If they didn't, it's a damned shame.

Zaphod's extra head was something of a tack-on, and the rubber-suited Vogon shouter was kinda hokey, but that was part of the fun of it. The show made you work just a little to suspend your belief and accept it. And you had to pay attention lest some of Adams' better gags slip by you.

And now, I'm off the Milliway's. I've a reservation for breakfast....


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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 05/05/2005 :  05:06:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Nope sorry, While I found the movie entertaining and humorous, All of the laughs are new laughs, I felt all of the book jokes were totally blown or non-existant.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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questionit
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Posted - 05/05/2005 :  05:25:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send questionit a Private Message
It was fun, but not very funny. Galaxy Quest was much better, and is it just me or was a lot of the potentially funny dialogue hard to hear?
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Renae
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Posted - 05/05/2005 :  05:46:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Renae a Private Message
Just as I suspected. I've stumbled onto a board filled with sci-fi geeks.

Wake me up when y'all discuss a real movie.

Love,

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quote:
Originally posted by pleco

Any of you see it? Did you like it?

I liked the movie for the most part...I though a few scenes were unfinished and kinda of shoved in, but overall it was worth it. Zaphod and Marvin stole the show.

I wish they had added the Guide entry about how the babelfish is used as the proof of the non-existence of god....

I saw it last weekend and for some inexplicable reason my wife and I both fell asleep in the theater. It had been a long day, I guess. I missed probably 25 minutes up to the last scene or two. I did enjoy what I saw, however. . . . I thought it was really well done.

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woolytoad
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Posted - 05/05/2005 :  06:02:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send woolytoad a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Renae

Renae, who probably won't even rent "Hitchiker's Guide" on DVD, who never played D&D, who thinks Star Wars and LOTR are cinematic torture


Wow, the SFN's 2nd ban ever.

To those zealous fans, as I understand it, DA made changes with every new medium he ventured into. It is certainly the way with the comics and books. So long as it's a reasonable interpretation, I'm happy.
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