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bloody_peasant
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Posted - 05/26/2005 :  12:30:47  Show Profile  Send bloody_peasant a Yahoo! Message Send bloody_peasant a Private Message
I've just stumbled upon some strange claims oddly enough googling for snopes.

http://www.physics911.net/missingwings.htm

quote:
The main burden of this article has been to demonstrate that the debris found outside the Pentagon is inconsistent with the impact of a Boeing 757 or any aircraft of comparable dimensions. In particular, in the absence of some agency (possibly unknown to physical science) that removed the wings, there is no way to avoid the conclusion that the wings (and therefore the aircraft) were never present in the first place. In this case, no Boeing 757 struck the Pentagon building on the morning of September 11, 2001.


Apparently there is a whole cottage industry out there around this particular claim.

I've only started to skim the info, but would like to see if anyone else would like to take a look and see if this is a crackpot conspiracy theory or is there something there.

BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 05/26/2005 :  12:48:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
Yeah man you are way behind on this one, a french book with all speculation was released a few months after 911 and it hit #1 in France instantly. The Gov coverup is always popular so it cought on here immediatly.

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And this one, totally debunked IMO.

"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History

"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini
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bloody_peasant
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Posted - 05/26/2005 :  12:51:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send bloody_peasant a Yahoo! Message Send bloody_peasant a Private Message
Ok the first thing I did was try and research the authors of this particular paper.
G. W. Longspaugh appears to be reported as an aero engineer of some sorts, but not much else abuot him.

A K. Dewdney however appears to be a mathematician and computer scientist, a Canadian professor. His bibliography appears quite respectable and fairly interesting.
e.g.
Yes, We Have No Neutrons
quote:
The eight examples of "bad science" (a term we are forced to adopt in place of "non-science") span the twentieth century: N-rays, IQ, Freud, SETI, neural nets, Biosphere 2, and cold fusion


Beyond Reason
quote:
There are things we cannot do and things we cannot know. The book explores eight examples, altogether. We cannot square the circle, nor can we travel faster than light. We cannot compute some functions quickly, or others at all. We cannot have perpetual motion machines and we cannot predict the behaviour of a chaotic system (including the weather)....


His home page
http://www.csd.uwo.ca/faculty/akd/akd.html

and an interview by The Connecticut Skeptic
http://www.theness.com/articles/dewdney-cs0204.html

From his home page he gives a good overview of deductive and inductive science
http://www.csd.uwo.ca/faculty/akd/PERSONAL/Math_and_CS.html
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bloody_peasant
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Posted - 05/26/2005 :  13:13:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send bloody_peasant a Yahoo! Message Send bloody_peasant a Private Message
Ahh thanks BPS, I'm such a putz, so far behind on the conspiracy theories, LOL
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Dave W.
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Posted - 05/26/2005 :  18:44:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

Detailed in this thread
Damn, I was in rare form back then. Thanks for the memories, BPS.

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