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Starman
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Posted - 08/10/2005 :  06:17:30  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
Kent Hovind has published a reply to Scientific Americans Okay, We Give Up, fom April 1st, 2005.

See this thread.

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 08/10/2005 :  06:51:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Starman

Kent Hovind has published a reply to Scientific Americans Okay, We Give Up, fom April 1st, 2005.

See this thread.



Bwahahahahahaha..... Ha? Ha? ....... He's...... serious?

Someone should tell him there are many decaffinated coffees out there that taste just like the real stuff.


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Plyss
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Netherlands
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Posted - 08/10/2005 :  06:56:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Plyss a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Starman

Kent Hovind has published a reply to Scientific Americans Okay, We Give Up, fom April 1st, 2005.

See this thread.



I'm having a hard time deciding what's funnier: The original SA article, the fact that Hovind felt it necessary to respond to an April Fools joke, or the mind-boggling inadequacy of his response.

Oh Kent, never change!
-edited for typo-
Edited by - Plyss on 08/10/2005 06:57:55
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filthy
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Posted - 08/10/2005 :  07:07:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
It warms my heart and restores my faith in the myriad varitions of Murphy's Law to see that Dr? Dino has not lost his touch.

The undisputed King of the Straw Man is still at the top of his game!


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moakley
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Posted - 08/10/2005 :  10:06:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message
What I learned from his reply:
- I should watch videos 3, 4, & 7.
- I should visit Dino land.
- I shouldn't have purchased another copy of (Un)Scientific (Un)American at lunch.
- I should have my sense of humor removed.
- That winning debates leads to good science.

That's enough knowledge for today, time to close my mind again...

Life is good

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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 08/10/2005 :  10:21:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
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Ten years ago if a professor in the Soviet Union tried to submit an article to any Soviet magazine claiming that communism didn't work, and capitalism is a better system, he would be shipped off to Siberia if he survived.


Did he cut and paste one of his old arguements from 1997 or is he just really good at being dumb? Probably both.

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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 08/10/2005 :  13:46:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf

quote:
Ten years ago if a professor in the Soviet Union tried to submit an article to any Soviet magazine claiming that communism didn't work, and capitalism is a better system, he would be shipped off to Siberia if he survived.


Did he cut and paste one of his old arguements from 1997 or is he just really good at being dumb? Probably both.

Yeah, "ten years" caught my eye immediately.

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Dry_vby
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Australia
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Posted - 08/10/2005 :  16:39:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dry_vby a Private Message
Ah, sarcasm.

But it only seems to remotely have impact if you've got a sense of humor.

Now science is at my level.

"I'll go along with the charade
Until I can think my way out.
I know it was all a big joke
Whatever it was about."

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R.Wreck
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Posted - 08/10/2005 :  17:45:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send R.Wreck a Private Message
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Tell the editors, or any other evolutionist for that matter, I'd be honored to debate them in front of any university with half of my brain tied behind my back.


Well, now we know where to find the worlds smallest rope.

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Dry_vby
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Australia
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Posted - 08/10/2005 :  18:14:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dry_vby a Private Message
Yeah, and I bet he's only using half his wit's as well.

"I'll go along with the charade
Until I can think my way out.
I know it was all a big joke
Whatever it was about."

Bob Dylan
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Hawks
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Posted - 08/10/2005 :  18:41:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Hawks's Homepage Send Hawks a Private Message
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Well, now we know where to find the worlds smallest rope.

Would a strand of DNA do? Or, for a rope of even smaller diameter, maybe a long chain of carbons with nothing but hydrogen for side groups (essentially a saturated fatty acid - which is good when you want to tie up a thick brain).

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Ricky
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Posted - 08/11/2005 :  10:10:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
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Radiocarbon dating was invented a hundred and twenty years after they began teaching the earth was millions of years old.


So he is saying that radiocarbon dating independently verifies a theory that was already in existence. Good to know, but I don't see how it helps his point.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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Plyss
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Netherlands
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Posted - 08/11/2005 :  12:59:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Plyss a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Ricky

quote:
Radiocarbon dating was invented a hundred and twenty years after they began teaching the earth was millions of years old.


So he is saying that radiocarbon dating independently verifies a theory that was already in existence. Good to know, but I don't see how it helps his point.



Although technically carbon-dating proves no such thing considering it's limited to about 35.000 years or so. The multi-million year thing comes from other isotopes.
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Ricky
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Posted - 08/11/2005 :  14:25:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
Damn technicalities.

But I'm pretty sure in this context, Hovind meant, "radiometric dating," even if he doesn't know the difference.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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