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the_ignored
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Posted - 08/31/2005 :  15:03:19  Show Profile Send the_ignored a Private Message
Not to sound alarmist, but we'd better hope that these sites are overestimating the problems, or we are effed.
http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/
http://www.endofsuburbia.com/index.htm

For a sobering summary...

>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
>
> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
>
> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.

What brought that on? this. Original posting here.

Another example of this guy's lunacy here.

marfknox
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 09/01/2005 :  00:28:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit marfknox's Homepage  Send marfknox an AOL message Send marfknox a Private Message
Dude, this is the kind of shit that makes me want to give up on the idea of raising children and just travel the world having a good ol' time for the rest of my life with my husband.

"Too much certainty and clarity could lead to cruel intolerance" -Karen Armstrong

Check out my art store: http://www.marfknox.etsy.com

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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard

USA
4574 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2005 :  01:26:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
Dear lord.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2005 :  02:45:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
I hadn't thought about it quite like that, but the one point seems fairly lucid.

We aren't going to be all peachy until the last drop of oil is mined, but rather only until the production starts to decrease due to the supply being exausted.

Scary shit.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 09/01/2005 :  13:28:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
Ok, let's assume the worst. Oil prices rise out of control and the country enters a severe depression. Who fares best? From what I understand of the Great Depression, the run on cash basically devalued the currency. Would investing in gold or some other hard currency be a safer bet or no?



"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 09/01/2005 :  16:01:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
quote:
Ok, let's assume the worst. Oil prices rise out of control and the country enters a severe depression. Who fares best? From what I understand of the Great Depression, the run on cash basically devalued the currency. Would investing in gold or some other hard currency be a safer bet or no?



I'm thinking that investment in a good sized hydroponic garden might not be a bad idea... set it up to run off solar and wind power.

Add in a large seed stock and learn how to make the nutrient bath from easily obtainable materials...

Maybe invest in an education in basic agriculture.

There is no way to say, beyond basic necessities of life, what will retain value in such a situation.

I'm thinking that a house totally independent from any kind of city water or power supply would be usefull as well. Out in the country, wind/solar power. Backup generator that can run on ethanol, which you can easily distil in small quantities...


I wonder if it is even possible to make an accurate estimate of when actual oil production will will begin to drop off. We know it is a finite resource...

I can't help feeling that the websites linked above seem like semi-hysterical responses. Doomsaying if you will.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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