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Fripp
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USA
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Posted - 09/23/2005 :  10:17:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID

You motherfuckers would not last one day in my old neighborhoods. You would have gotten all of your shit taken from you until you would have been running around but ass naked, crying.



Oh, here we go. The old "My neighborhood was soooo tough..." fantasyland.

Hybrid, what would your mother think if she found out you were typing such naughty words on her computer?

(Wait a minute....I'm getting a vision of the future.....HYBRID is going to make an obscene reference about my mother [or some other female relative] thinking that it will insult me...)

"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"

"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?"
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HYBRID
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USA
344 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2005 :  10:17:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HYBRID a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID

quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by astropin

quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID

i think its simple, we don't have to go into all of the other evidence, but I think of it like this: we have something called radar, and when planes leave the airport, they are constantly being tracked by this. We also have something called NORAD, who's entire purpose is to stop terrorist attacks. They also are supposed to stop attacks like 9/11. But alas, even though we had all of that, no NORAD, even though those planes were off course for over 1 and 45 minutes. But other planes that have went off course and were intercepted by the military and NORAD within minutes, but not on 9/11. Why? Was radar not working that day? How about NORAD? I would love to here the excuses this time.



Nope. NORAD exists to detect inbound nuclear ICBM's and launch out own ICBM's.

Out of the literally hundreds of flight deviations each day which were uninvestigated and unintercepted, you're complaining about four. A number of years ago, an United Airlines jet landed at Council Bluffs, IA. The problem, their flight plan called for landing at Omaha, NE. It was not intercepted. When flights stray into military restricted airspace, they are usually intercepted and investigated. New York was not military restricted airspace.

Likewise, the scramble time of a flight of fighter aircraft is significantly longer than a few minutes. If there are any Air Force folks here, I'll hope you'll correct me if I misstate the time. I believe it takes 30 minutes to scramble two fighters for an intercept mission. Then you have to add in the flight time. Due to base closings, flight time is at least 15 minutes to NYC.



Well, to be fair, Hybrid did point out already that some of the planes were off course for a very long time. The last one (was it flight 901) was off course for almost 2hrs before the passengers brought it down (or was it the passengers?). BTW...in no way am I backing Hybrids theory. I think our military response to the situation was similar to our response to Katrina.....feeble and late.



And at the time, the military was not in the habit of chasing down every commercial aircraft that went off course. There had never been a domestic shoot down of a US based commercial airliner by US forces. Authority for this was thought to reside with the President. Historically, terrorists only hijacked airliners to other places or just blew them up.

It was an inadequate response to the situation militarily, but not evidence of a staging by the US government. In one case, but not so for the others who had shorter flight times.

Of course, he decided to attack your question as well since he is the Sole Arbiter of Truth(tm) and is not required to list sources or provide evidence for his absurd conjecture. He need only pooh-pooh it and viola it is refuted.








Wait a minute, cause I really don't like your ass! What about after the 1st plane hit! Was that not reason enough to act. How about the fact that the clinton and bush administration protected bin laden and al queida, as in signed documents saying that people would arrested for trying to arrest them! FBI agents and other law enforcement agencies quit after 9/11 because they felt that our government protected them, when they could have stopped it.

I don't give a fuck what you say, there is no fucking way that the planes should have been off course that long. And I am talking not just about military radar, what about all of the other statesin between where the planes left and d.c.? All of that air space, and no one question a plane u turning and going 200 miles or more out of the direction. BULLSHIT!! BULLSHIT!! D.C. is supposed to be the most protected air space IN THE WORLD!

'Inadequate response by the military'dude, you sound like my mom! Man if I keep hearing the same old excuses. Trying to justify these fucked up things with oh, they don't know what they are doing, oh they are incompetent, well get sombody in there who IS competent! How the fuck did they get in there to begin with!! Get them THE FUCK OUT!! Who's going to have some balls to do or say something about this? How many have to die? Me, you, my mom, your mom, my kid your kids, anyone's kids, millions? This is a sad day indeed.



I don't give a rats ass if you like me or not. Provide proof or go infect someplace else. The name of the game round here is evidence. You have provided zero of that and only mounds of abuse and pooh-poohing. Again, I accept your concession of defeat evidenced by your complete lack of proof.




Man shut the fuck up!! I have presented plenty, you just don't address it AS USUAL!!
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HYBRID
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USA
344 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2005 :  10:20:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HYBRID a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

It is clear to me that HYBRID has come back to do nothing but claim moral and intellectual superiority, and bash those who don't think precisely as he does.

And so, because the Skeptic Friends Network does not exist so that people can have a soapbox from which to demostrate their personality flaws, HYBRID now has an official warning from me to cease the abusive language.

Everyone else should follow suit, as is only fair.




Will tell them to get off of my ass with the insults! An insult is an insult! DO your fucking job fair!!
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HYBRID
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Posted - 09/23/2005 :  10:21:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HYBRID a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Fripp

quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID

You motherfuckers would not last one day in my old neighborhoods. You would have gotten all of your shit taken from you until you would have been running around but ass naked, crying.



Oh, here we go. The old "My neighborhood was soooo tough..." fantasyland.

Hybrid, what would your mother think if she found out you were typing such naughty words on her computer?

(Wait a minute....I'm getting a vision of the future.....HYBRID is going to make an obscene reference about my mother [or some other female relative] thinking that it will insult me...)











Dude, I live with my girlfriend, been on my since 17. Any other lies!?
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furshur
SFN Regular

USA
1536 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2005 :  10:28:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send furshur a Private Message
quote:
I believe that the US government…

i think its simple, we don't have to go into all of the other evidence…

I think that the media is being supressed……

I don't believe the war on terror exists AT ALL……

I know plenty of people who feel the same way……

If my word isn't good enough, fuck you…

I don't care what you believe, I don't care what you think, I don't care if everyone believes what you believe, you need to have a little evidence. Of coures your 'word' is not good enough. Oh and the same to you.

I will now steel myself to watch your evidence in those 2 links.

Whoa this really is scary....



If I knew then what I know now then I would know more now than I know.
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HYBRID
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USA
344 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2005 :  10:33:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HYBRID a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Fripp

quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID

You motherfuckers would not last one day in my old neighborhoods. You would have gotten all of your shit taken from you until you would have been running around but ass naked, crying.



Oh, here we go. The old "My neighborhood was soooo tough..." fantasyland.

Hybrid, what would your mother think if she found out you were typing such naughty words on her computer?

(Wait a minute....I'm getting a vision of the future.....HYBRID is going to make an obscene reference about my mother [or some other female relative] thinking that it will insult me...)

















Dude, its not my fault, your sofT! YOur like a suzie Q. creme filled, mushy even.
Edited by - HYBRID on 09/23/2005 10:34:45
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HYBRID
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USA
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Posted - 09/23/2005 :  10:35:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HYBRID a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by furshur

quote:
I believe that the US government…

i think its simple, we don't have to go into all of the other evidence…

I think that the media is being supressed……

I don't believe the war on terror exists AT ALL……

I know plenty of people who feel the same way……

If my word isn't good enough, fuck you…

I don't care what you believe, I don't care what you think, I don't care if everyone believes what you believe, you need to have a little evidence. Of coures your 'word' is not good enough. Oh and the same to you.

I will now steel myself to watch your evidence in those 2 links.

Whoa this really is scary....





















You cut and paste well, you should work for the media!
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HYBRID
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USA
344 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2005 :  10:51:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HYBRID a Private Message
Oh, by the way, they are planning the microchip for all of us. And you guys are going to let them! Listen to this: http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2005/120905robertsquestioned.htm
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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26020 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2005 :  10:56:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID

DO your fucking job fair!!
I am. Your very first post after your month-long absence was clearly intended to insult me, but I only decided to issue a warning after reading your massively abusive comments (which fail to respond to the questions posed to you) in this thread.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
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Dave W.
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USA
26020 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2005 :  11:01:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID

Oh, by the way, they are planning the microchip for all of us. And you guys are going to let them!
What would you have us do except vote against the Republicans, which most of the folks here are probably planning to do, anyway?

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HYBRID
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Posted - 09/23/2005 :  11:08:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HYBRID a Private Message
Well thank god for at least that!
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HYBRID
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Posted - 09/23/2005 :  11:12:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HYBRID a Private Message
Oh, I get it, your pissed because I insulted you , my bad.
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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 09/23/2005 :  11:25:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID

Oh, I get it, your pissed because I insulted you , my bad.
No, I ignored that until you asserted that I was being unfair.

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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 09/23/2005 :  11:29:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID

Well thank god for at least that!
Why is it that you refuse to answer simple questions? Again: what would you have us do about the "implants" other than vote the current administration out of office? If that's it, then your "you guys are going to let them" was to place blame where no blame belongs. In other words, it was a lie.

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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie

USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2005 :  11:38:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID

quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID

quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by astropin

quote:
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

quote:
Originally posted by HYBRID

i think its simple, we don't have to go into all of the other evidence, but I think of it like this: we have something called radar, and when planes leave the airport, they are constantly being tracked by this. We also have something called NORAD, who's entire purpose is to stop terrorist attacks. They also are supposed to stop attacks like 9/11. But alas, even though we had all of that, no NORAD, even though those planes were off course for over 1 and 45 minutes. But other planes that have went off course and were intercepted by the military and NORAD within minutes, but not on 9/11. Why? Was radar not working that day? How about NORAD? I would love to here the excuses this time.



Nope. NORAD exists to detect inbound nuclear ICBM's and launch out own ICBM's.

Out of the literally hundreds of flight deviations each day which were uninvestigated and unintercepted, you're complaining about four. A number of years ago, an United Airlines jet landed at Council Bluffs, IA. The problem, their flight plan called for landing at Omaha, NE. It was not intercepted. When flights stray into military restricted airspace, they are usually intercepted and investigated. New York was not military restricted airspace.

Likewise, the scramble time of a flight of fighter aircraft is significantly longer than a few minutes. If there are any Air Force folks here, I'll hope you'll correct me if I misstate the time. I believe it takes 30 minutes to scramble two fighters for an intercept mission. Then you have to add in the flight time. Due to base closings, flight time is at least 15 minutes to NYC.



Well, to be fair, Hybrid did point out already that some of the planes were off course for a very long time. The last one (was it flight 901) was off course for almost 2hrs before the passengers brought it down (or was it the passengers?). BTW...in no way am I backing Hybrids theory. I think our military response to the situation was similar to our response to Katrina.....feeble and late.



And at the time, the military was not in the habit of chasing down every commercial aircraft that went off course. There had never been a domestic shoot down of a US based commercial airliner by US forces. Authority for this was thought to reside with the President. Historically, terrorists only hijacked airliners to other places or just blew them up.

It was an inadequate response to the situation militarily, but not evidence of a staging by the US government. In one case, but not so for the others who had shorter flight times.

Of course, he decided to attack your question as well since he is the Sole Arbiter of Truth(tm) and is not required to list sources or provide evidence for his absurd conjecture. He need only pooh-pooh it and viola it is refuted.








Wait a minute, cause I really don't like your ass! What about after the 1st plane hit! Was that not reason enough to act. How about the fact that the clinton and bush administration protected bin laden and al queida, as in signed documents saying that people would arrested for trying to arrest them! FBI agents and other law enforcement agencies quit after 9/11 because they felt that our government protected them, when they could have stopped it.

I don't give a fuck what you say, there is no fucking way that the planes should have been off course that long. And I am talking not just about military radar, what about all of the other statesin between where the planes left and d.c.? All of that air space, and no one question a plane u turning and going 200 miles or more out of the direction. BULLSHIT!! BULLSHIT!! D.C. is supposed to be the most protected air space IN THE WORLD!

'Inadequate response by the military'dude, you sound like my mom! Man if I keep hearing the same old excuses. Trying to justify these fucked up things with oh, they don't know what they are doing, oh they are incompetent, well get sombody in there who IS competent! How the fuck did they get in there to begin with!! Get them THE FUCK OUT!! Who's going to have some balls to do or say something about this? How many have to die? Me, you, my mom, your mom, my kid your kids, anyone's kids, millions? This is a sad day indeed.



I don't give a rats ass if you like me or not. Provide proof or go infect someplace else. The name of the game round here is evidence. You have provided zero of that and only mounds of abuse and pooh-poohing. Again, I accept your concession of defeat evidenced by your complete lack of proof.




Man shut the fuck up!! I have presented plenty, you just don't address it AS USUAL!!



You have asserted plenty. You have presented no evidence. I accept your further concession of defeat by ignoring the content of the refuting post and instead telling me to STFU.

You gonna make me shut up, sunshine? Seeing as you lack any idea who I am, where I am, or any power to silence me what so ever, I consider your threat comical.

Prozac, try some.

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

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