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Kilik
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Article on it
http://www.cdnn.info/industry/i021017/i021017.html

more recent update
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1374107/posts
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=31&art_id=qw1097554324900B252

and most recent-
http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=4801
quote:

National Geographic Magazine will sponsor another underwater exploration of the sunken city off the Coast of Cuba this fall. Russian-Canadian oceanographer Pauline Zelitsky will head the expedition. Political differences prevent the US from participating, and much of the work has been done by France and Russia. So far, the exploration has been done by remote-controlled mini submarines, armed with video cameras.



http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/992589/posts
http://www.cuba.cu/ciencia/citma/ama/museo/exmar5i.htm
http://www.cuba.cu/ciencia/citma/ama/museo/exmar6i.htm
http://www.morien-institute.org/adclarge6.html#15

http://www.s8int.com/water1.html
http://www.ambergriscaye.com/pages/town/greatbluehole.html
http://www.pureinsight.org/pi/articles/2003/4/28/1582.html
http://www.s8int.com/atomic1.html
http://www.s8int.com/atomic2.html
http://www.atlantisrising.com/issue18/18bermuda.html

Even National Geographic admits that there are prehistoric civilization submerged under the sea that could shed some light on possibly many flood legends, one of which could be atlantis
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2002/05/0528_020528_sunkencities.html

Article about Plato's description
http://www.cycleoftime.com/articles_view.php?codArtigo=68

Kabbalistic and Magic Alphabets

"Its figures are supposedly derived from the constellations. Advanced students of occult philosophy will come upon many valuable documents in which these figures are used. Under each letter of the first alphabet above is its equivalent in English. Above each letter of the other three alphabets is its Hebrew letter equivalent."

Tarot and hebrew Alphabet are both 22 parts + the name of god YHVH. Greek and even English could be more distantly related, english alphabet is 26 parts
http://www.crystalinks.com/tarot.html

The Fool card, appears on a journey to Shargung La-





Massive underwater Megaliths


Internal Cross





Squared off large block of granite-like stone amid megalithic structures
a half mile deep covering an estimated 10 square kilometers.


Pyramid shape seems "carved out of" massive rectangular stone
that can be seen behind the pyramid glowing in the glare of the ROV's light


Rounded, megalithic granite-like rock with unidentified line detail.






Belize . Massively drilled botomless holes. To exctract molten power from deep iside the earth, which created unstable land and Atlantis eventually sank from unnatural volcanoes, drilled holes, and widespread severe environmental destruction and pollution which made the earth more unstable




I remember seeing on a show something about the layout of the places where the pyramids were built on different continents, Egypt and mexico ,being 1 100th of the earths suface, perhaps using earth meridians, no one knew for sure how they measured it


http://www.world-mysteries.com/mpl_2.htm

http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Great-Pyramid-of-Giza
http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Moscow-and-Rhind-Mathematical-Papyri





Originally the Pyramids had a nice shiny outer coating, and capstones at the top.


Even today, possibly 10s of thousands of years later, they dwarf modern Cairo buildings. The bottom layout area is larger than many many football fields. Each layer is perfectly level.


CHinese and Tibetan Pyramid. Kunlun mountains area, between China and Tibet




Redating the sphinx-
http://members.aol.com/davidpb4/sphinx1.html
http://www.lyghtforce.com/Giza/


Also, it is associated with Egypt in some cases. The knowledge of the history about it is said to come from Egypt, who kept records of Atlantis' existence. The ancient Greeks thought Giza to be a wonder of the ancient world,

http://www.lyghtforce.com/Giza/
http://www.keysofenoch.org/html/giza_update.html
quote:

"2. Tunnels & Chambers Under The Great Sphinx

(I) In a series of expeditions between 1991 and 1993 led by John Anthony West, and independent Egyptologist, scientific investigators conducted geological and seismic surveys around the Great Sphinx of Egypt. The chief geologist was Dr. Robert Schoch, Professor of Geology at Boston University, and the chief seismologist was Thomas Dobecki from the highly-respected Houston consulting firm, McBride-Ratclif & Associates.

(II) The team's conclusions were as follows:

A. Geology, The pattern of erosion on the Sphinx indicates that it was carved at the end of the last Ice Age, when heavy rains fell in the eastern Sahara - perhaps more than 12,000 years ago. This contrasts starkly with the 'orthodox' Egyptological dating for the Sphinx of around 4,500 years ago.

B. Seismography. The seismic survey indicated the existence of several unexplored tunnels and cavities in the bedrock beneath the Sphinx, including a large rectangular chamber at a depth of some 25 feet beneath the monuments front paws."


And
quote:

" The idea of there being a secret chamber buried somewhere beneath the Sphinx was first popularized by renowned psychic Edgar Cayce in 1932. Cayce believed that this secret chamber contained an ancient Hall of Records, which contained, among other things, manuscripts detailing the history of mankind much further back than we are currently aware - possibly even back to the world before the Flood. He also predicted that the Hall would be discovered sometime around the year 2000.

In recent years, this prophecy may have come true. Scientists using an array of techniques, searching on and around the Sphinx, have discovered one or more large, box-shaped, hollow areas just below the Sphinx. One of these enclosures is located beneath of the paws of the Sphinx, just where Cayce had predicted the Hall of Records would be found. Bauval explains,

The Giza necropolis, it seems, has finally decided to discharge all its secrets at once. For not far from the Great Pyramid, in a shallow enclave to the East, is the Great Sphinx. It, too, may be guarding a treasure-trove under its belly: a "Hall of Records" of a civilization long lost in the mist of time. There, too, with amazing synchronicity, an entrance to such a vault has been known since 1993. Why have these "chambers" not yet been opened? What could be within them? Could the Egyptian authorities know more than they are letting on?"


http://www.mysteriousworld.com/Journal/1999/Autumn/Sphinx04/
http://www.michaelmandeville.com/phoenix/hallofrecords/hallrecordsfront.htm


From the Egyptologists themselves
http://www.towers-online.co.uk/pages/sphinx.htm
quote:

Florida State University, on behalf of the Schor Expedition, carried out a remote sensing survey around the Sphinx and elsewhere on the plateau for three weeks in April 1996. They claimed to have found "rooms and tunnels" in front of the Sphinx and running from the rear of the Sphinx. Several other projects have made similar claims:

SRI International did an electrical resistivity and acoustical survey in 1977-78.

In 1987 a Japanese team from Waseda University (Tokyo), under the direction of Sakuji Yoshimura carried out an electromagnetic sounding survey of the Khufu Pyramid and Sphinx. They reported evidence of a tunnel oriented north-south under the Sphinx, a water pocket 2.5 to 3 m below surface near the south hind paw, and another cavity near the north hind paw.

In 1991 a team consisting of geologist Robert Schoch (Boston University), Thomas Dobecki, and John Anthony West carried out a survey of the Sphinx using seismic refraction, refraction tomography, and seismic reflection. The investigators interpreted their data to indicate shallower subsurface weathering patterns toward the back and deeper weathering toward the front, which they take to indicate that the back of the Sphinx and its ditch were carved by Khafre later than the front. They interpret their data to likewise indicate subsurface cavities in front of the front left paw, and from the left paw back along the south flank.


The techniques such projects use do not directly reveal chambers and passages. They only show "anomalies," that must be interpreted as chambers and passages. Faults and other natural features can also produce anomalies. We cannot give permission to dig into the natural rock of the Sphinx, or to drill into the Sphinx on the basis of anomalies, especially now that our highest priority is to conserve the Sphinx. Remote sensing programs should anyway be carried out elsewhere to test the techniques, and to demonstrate that it works before it is used to make sensational claims of secret rooms in the Sphinx.

Meanwhile, we struggle in our department to save the Sphinx and many other sites and monuments for future generations. We work hard to organize the site for tourism, so all can enjoy our monuments, and we try to balance tourism with conservation. If we found evidence of a civilization older than that of the dynastic Egyptians, we would not, and could not, keep it from the public. Nor do we try to stop reasonable research. The list of remote sensing surveys at the Sphinx proves that we have not prevented this kind of research - and the list is even longer for those who have probed the pyramids. But now other priorities are far more urgent, and we cannot allow digging and drilling into the Sphinx on the off-chance that somehow we have missed the only evidence of a lost civilization!"


it appears something fishy is going on at Giza


from-
http://phoenix.akasha.de/~aton/HO-OSIRIS.html
http://phoenix.akasha.de/~aton/Kham.html

"The previous photographs of this area, showed the sarcophagus to be surrounded by solid dirt. Non of the water is evident in Dr.. Borris Said's photographs from 1997.



1999 as seen on live tv, all this water magically appeared there, and they claim ithey found it like that. But the previous site I linked shows there was no pillars or water there in 1997



Article on the Pyramids
http://www.sacredsites.com/africa/egypt/great_pyramid.html

had two purposes. One was for a final spiritual initiation. The long hallway up the pyramid, at one time had magnificent images along it of the stages of spiritual development and the Tarot images. The initiate would be placed in total darkness in the pyramid with a certain ointment on them, and a final enlightenment or near( or complete) death experience would be brought on.

They were also power plants. At the very top of the pyramids was placed a capstone of gold with a crystal(maybe quartz?) in it, which I think absorbed and focused rays from the sun. In the center of the pyramid would be placed a large electric capacitor. With the power of the capacitor, and the crystal at the top. Anyways, I'm not too great at explaining or understanding all the exact details. But the Pyramids allowed wireless tranmission to power lights and vehicles, or ships even at one time, without wires or fuel.

They were actually built 10,500 BC as opposed to the conventional dating of 2,500 BC. Underneath the Sphinx is Grandmaster Thoth's terrestial airship. In recent times Dr. Robert Schoch and John Anthony West discovered the rain weathering patterns on the Sphinx provides hard evidence that that type of weathering could only happen from 10,000 BC to 5000 BC. Author Graham Hancock has demonstrated that the shafts of the Great Pyramid point directly to certain stars and contellations. But it doesn't match the stars in 2,500 BC, it matches the sky in 10,500 BC.




Also, I think I remember reading that there isn't even supposed to be granite in those parts of the sea near Cuba, Florida or Mexico. On a Graham Hancock show I remember him interviewing an old man who remembered tons of granite being excavated and taken from the bimini road area in like the 30s or 40s.

On each corner of the the bimini blocks, are very manmade looking sort of small pillars or legs, holding the blocks 6 inches or a foot above the ground.

http://edgarcayce.org/am/androspressrelea.html

http://edgarcayce.org/am/biminiexpedition.html

Site tht talks about the A.are.E's ( association for research and enlightenment)
search for one of the "hall of records".

http://www.mysterious-america.net/hallofrecords.html



This chapter talks about ancient technology that was used in pyramids-
http://www.atlantis.to/LTA/19.htm


Sounds like they're going back in September and October this year to examine the underwater Megaliths near the coast of Cuba. This time will be a joint project, with National Geographic involved.

"New National Geographic/Zelitsky Expedition to Cuba "Underwater City" Site Planned"
http://www.s8int.com/water27.html

quote-
"A clear explanation does not exist of how these structures formed by natural means. Offered this point of view as geologist, I admit the possibility that it could be a question of not natural, that is to say structures, created by man, or some intelligent entity." - Manuel Iturralde of the National Museum of Natural History of the Havana, considered to be the foremost geologist of Cuba."

Also-
http://www.timstouse.com/EarthHistory/Atlantis/bimini.htm

underwater finds off of gibralter-
http://www.arqueotour.com/atlantis/texts/noticias-megalitos-submarinos-atlantida-gibraltar2.htm

Stonehenge is 10,000 years old. The astrologically aligned wooden posts at stonehenge were carbon dated to have been put in place 10,000 years ago

quote:

Druids


How could the Mayas have founded their mathematical and astrological systems on an Egyptian culture which stands oceans of water and oceans of time apart? Let us first turn our attention elsewhere.

The Druids, long since eliminated by Christianity, were described by the Romans as priests of great wisdom, who believed in immortality and worshipped the stars. They are not thought to have built the many stone circles around Europe, but they may have possessed the Lost Wisdom as to their significance and function.

The megalithic arrangements across Europe are amazing feats of spatial calculation and physical achievement - the largest Menec stone could only now be lifted by the largest of cranes, and yet it was moved over 50 miles. And yet just like the great pyramid of Egypt, they are devoid of any form of marking, writing or hieroglyphic.

But perhaps we are looking from the wrong perspective. We are looking for writing on these amazing monuments and find none. But perhaps they themselves are the writing. In Carnac in north-western France there are no less than 3000 unmarked megalithic stones, the largest of which once stood 70 feet tall and weighed 500 tonnes. Their arrangement is very deliberate, and the astronomical alignments imply that in theory hundreds of years of observation must have been required before a single stone was set in place. Research at Oxford university has suggested that the builders must have known the latitude and circumference of the Earth and even such advanced mathematics as both Pythagorean and spherical trigonometry. Yet dating suggests that the stones could not possibly have been put in place within at least the last 6000 years, and probably they are older still.

At Carnac there is also a burial mound. Here is the only evidence of any form of notation; huge serpentlike patterns that appear to depict some form astronomical information. Who wrote this? The only clue we have is the mound itself. The passage inside is made of granite, just like the King's chamber in the great pyramid of Egypt, and points directly at the rising sun on Winter Solstice.

The Seas


Around 10,000 years ago the end of the ice age brought with it huge changes in the topography of the land masses. The area around Carnac became surrounded by sea. Today it is an island. Could its megalithic arrangements have been created by a seafaring people, who used the star to navigate in their journeys around the globe?

Stonehenge


Every discussion of megalithic mystery entails some mention of Stonehenge, and this one shall be no different. Stonehenge is of course the most famous stone circle in England, and well known for its supposed astrological and mythical importance. Traditional dating of the stone circle was said to place its age at around 5000 years. However, in 1997 came a famous and major historical breakthrough. Around stonehenge there are four sighting posts. Two of these sighting posts make a line with what once were three huge wooden pillars. This alignment pointed to the most northern setting point of the moon. Stone is difficult to date, but wood can be carbon dated much more easily. Carbon dating of the remains of the wooden pillars in 1997 has now proven when they were actually put in place: 10,000 years ago.


Did you notice Yonaguni is also aligned to east just like the Sphinx is aligned with the east sky in 10,500 BC, just like the Pyramid at Carnac is, the same time period when Yonaguni sank,

Even this pic doesn't do it justice. On a Graham Hancock show he showed it from directly above. It sure looked to be an exact perfect circle


Even from that angle it's a pretty damn good circle

Edited by - Kilik on 11/15/2005 15:56:52

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Not this crap again, pyramids are the only stable way to make a giant pile of rocks, they are not related.

oh and FYI, National Geograpic is not held up to the highest standards of science.

Grab a rope and a post with some spray paint, and you have a circle as or more perfect than stonehenge, really amazing huh. Ancient people were not retarded you know.

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It looks like this is old material. You posted most of the exact same flood of links, including a complete lack of interjecting any of your own thoughts, on July 8, 2005, over on the Religion and Philosophy Forum at LionCity. Here is the link.
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Actually, he posted some of the same links and "ideas" right here on the SFN.

What's interesting this time, is that the title of this thread, "Mysterious finds off Cuba could be lost Atlantis," shows the lie Kilik wrote over in this thread, when he wrote that Cayce "Correctly Predicted the location of the Lost Continent of ATLANTIS!" Obviously, if whatever off Cuba "could be" Atlantis, then nobody knows if Cayce is correct or not (unless Cayce predicted that Atlantis was on the Earth somewhere, and I wouldn't put that past him).

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Didn't we cover this Cuba/Atlantis turkey a couple of years back? Not sure, but I seem to remember that we did....


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quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Grab a rope and a post with some spray paint, and you have a circle as or more perfect than stonehenge, really amazing huh. Ancient people were not retarded you know.


The builders of Stonehenge had access to spray paint? Well, that sure proves to me that aliens helped build it. Either that or time travellers. Or god.

My sister was bitten by a moose once.

Sorry. Why can't I rant as well?

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quote:
Originally posted by Hawks

quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Grab a rope and a post with some spray paint, and you have a circle as or more perfect than stonehenge, really amazing huh. Ancient people were not retarded you know.


The builders of Stonehenge had access to spray paint? Well, that sure proves to me that aliens helped build it. Either that or time travellers. Or god.

My sister was bitten by a moose once.

Sorry. Why can't I rant as well?

Bitten by a moose?! Damn! Makes my snakebites seem ordinary -- a moose, you say?

That story must be a doozy, and I'd like to read it...


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quote:
Originally posted by filthy

quote:
Originally posted by Hawks

quote:
Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Grab a rope and a post with some spray paint, and you have a circle as or more perfect than stonehenge, really amazing huh. Ancient people were not retarded you know.


The builders of Stonehenge had access to spray paint? Well, that sure proves to me that aliens helped build it. Either that or time travellers. Or god.

My sister was bitten by a moose once.

Sorry. Why can't I rant as well?

Bitten by a moose?! Damn! Makes my snakebites seem ordinary -- a moose, you say?

That story must be a doozy, and I'd like to read it...




It's a bit of a lie actually. She was never bitten by a moose. Come to think of it, I don't even have a sister in the first place. I don't know if you've ever watched Monty Python's search for the holy Grail. In the opening credits, "someone" has added some extra text saying stuff like Sweden is beautiful and adding that his sister was bitten by a moose. Not exactly hilarious, but at least slightly amusing. Sorry for any inconvenience. Sigh. Must go home. Must regain sanity.

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quote:
Originally posted by Hawks
It's a bit of a lie actually. She was never bitten by a moose. Come to think of it, I don't even have a sister in the first place. I don't know if you've ever watched Monty Python's search for the holy Grail. In the opening credits, "someone" has added some extra text saying stuff like Sweden is beautiful and adding that his sister was bitten by a moose. Not exactly hilarious, but at least slightly amusing. Sorry for any inconvenience. Sigh. Must go home. Must regain sanity.

Yeah, filthy, I suppose it is something of an inside joke. I smiled, but I would suspect you're not alone in failing to recognize the reference.

But I assure you the people responsible for monitoring the satiric content of Hawks' posts have been sacked.


Update: The people responsible for sacking the people responsible for monitoring the satiric content of Hawks' posts have been sacked.


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I saw Python's Holy Grail but once, and it was so long ago that I don't remember it all that well. Color my face red....

The reason it struck a chord with me is that I do wildlife rescue and rehab, specalizing in reptiles, and have been whacked lots by many. Another is that I have never reliably heard of anyone being bitten by a rumniate (which doesn't mean it's never happened; just that I've heard of it).

Heh, good reference though, now that I understand it...


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In ancient times, hundreds of years before the dawn of history
lived a strange race of people: the Druids.
No one knows who they were, or what they were doing,
but their legacy remains, hewn into the living rock...
of Stonehenge.


Stonehenge, where the demons dwell
Where the banshees live and they do live well
Stonehenge
Where a man is a man and the children dance to
the pipes of pan
Stonehenge
Tis a magic place where the moon doth rise
With a dragon's face
Stonehenge
Where the virgins lie
And the prayer of devils fill the midnight sky

And you my love, won't you take my hand
We'll go back in time to that mystic land
Where the dew drops cry and the cats meow
I will take you there
I will show you how


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quote:
Originally posted by Kil


And you my love, won't you take my hand
We'll go back in time to that mystic land
Where the dew drops cry and the cats meow
I will take you there
I will show you how


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"I do not, for one, think that the problem was that the band was down. I think that the problem *may* have been, that there was a Stonehenge monument on the stage that was in danger of being *crushed* by a *dwarf*. Alright? That tended to understate the hugeness of the object." -- David St. Hubbins, Spinal Tap


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My god, when the 'little people' were dancing around the 18" high stonehenge, I laughed so hard I thought I was going to pee myself.

If I knew then what I know now then I would know more now than I know.
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Yeah, but I think our problem is that we have a Stonehenge monument in danger of being crushed by a dwarf.

Anyone see that guy on tv who was building a stonehenge by himself, without modern erecting methods? It was quite amazing.

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Collateralmurder.
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