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HalfMooner
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Posted - 02/09/2006 :  14:37:51  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Recently Google caved in and agreed to allow China to control what sites appear on its search engine when a Chinese user enters certain search phrases, like "democracy." Now CNN has this AP story, about an allegation of an even more sinister kind of collaboration by Yahoo:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/02/09/china.yahoo.ap/index.html


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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 02/09/2006 :  14:44:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HalfMooner

Recently Google caved in and agreed to allow China to control what sites appear on its search engine when a Chinese user enters certain search phrases, like "democracy." Now CNN has this AP story, about an allegation of an even more sinister kind of collaboration by Yahoo:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/02/09/china.yahoo.ap/index.html





The question now is, did Yahoo cough up data for China the way it did for the US government or did the Chinese government go and get it.

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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 02/09/2006 :  15:00:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
V_D said:
quote:
The question now is, did Yahoo cough up data for China the way it did for the US government or did the Chinese government go and get it.

From the article, it seems pretty clear that Alibaba, Yahoo's Chinese partner that runs the Yahoo operation there, is unhesitatingly handing over any and all information that the Chinese government requests:
quote:
"[Alibaba's] chief executive, Jack Ma, said earlier his company would cooperate with authorities seeking information on 'politically sensitive information' sent by a Yahoo e-mail customer."

And the other Internet companies doing business there also appear to be working hand-in-hand with the Chinese internal security goons.


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Edited by - HalfMooner on 02/09/2006 15:06:32
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beskeptigal
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Posted - 02/11/2006 :  04:29:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
So is there a way for the Chinese to get around the Google road block? Can they go to another site and link to something that Google has blocked, or is it just blocked? We should be paying very close attention to this. Anything that starts to censor the net besides filters you choose for yourself is bad, very bad.
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 02/11/2006 :  09:19:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
I think they can still use the English language google.com site, instead of the Chinese language google.cn search engine.


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Dave W.
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Posted - 02/11/2006 :  21:15:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by beskeptigal

Anything that starts to censor the net besides filters you choose for yourself is bad, very bad.
I was under the impression that several countries, including North Korea and Saudi Arabia, only have a single "pipeline" between their selected ISPs and the "outside world," and use that bottleneck in order to censor the Web as a whole.

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beskeptigal
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Posted - 02/12/2006 :  01:01:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Dave W.

I was under the impression that several countries, including North Korea and Saudi Arabia, only have a single "pipeline" between their selected ISPs and the "outside world," and use that bottleneck in order to censor the Web as a whole.

But they couldn't block satellite wireless connections if the phones/modems could be smuggled in, or could they?
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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 02/12/2006 :  02:10:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by beskeptigal

But they couldn't block satellite wireless connections if the phones/modems could be smuggled in, or could they?
Probably not, but the last time I used an actual satellite phone, my company was billed about five bucks a minute for a 2400-bps data connection. That's definitely not the sort of rate (either rate) one would want for an informed electorate. It's more of a "rich elite" sort of solution, and they already know how the "real world" works.

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