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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 06/01/2006 : 05:11:05 [Permalink]
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| Actually that happened twice in the last few weeks, some ladies got fried in Mexico I think praying before a big metal cross. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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verlch
SFN Regular
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Posted - 06/02/2006 : 09:53:12 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
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Really, Im truly shocked.
Doesn't say what is in their hearts. I've had my prayers answered many times.
Sure they are small things, remember "It can be done, if it is Gods' will. |
What came first the chicken or the egg?
How do plants exist without bugs in the soil, and bugs in the soil without plants producing oxygen?
There are no atheists in foxholes
Underlying the evolutionary theory is not just the classic "stuff" of science — conclusions arrived at through prolonged observation and experimentation. Evolution is first an atheistic, materialistic world view. In other words, the primary reason for its acceptance has little to do with the evidence for or against it. Evolution is accepted because men are atheists by faith and thus interpret the evidence to cor-respond to their naturalistic philosophy.
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. II Timothy 4:3,4
II Thess. 2:11 And for this cause God shall
send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
You can not see the 'wind', but you can see its effect!!!!
Evolution was caused by genetic mistakes at each stage?
Radical Evolution has 500 million years to find fossils of fictional drawings of (hard core)missing links, yet they find none.
We have not seen such moral darkness since the dark ages, coencides with
teaching evolution in schools. (Moral darkness)
For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places, EPH 6:12.
"Thus, many scientists embracing naturalism find themselves in the seeming dilemma recently articulated by biochemist Franklin Harold: "We should reject, as a matter of principle, the substitution of intelligent design for the dialogue of chance and necessity [i.e., Darwinian evolution]; but we must concede that there are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biochemical system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
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pleco
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 06/02/2006 : 10:13:00 [Permalink]
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You don't know for a fact your prayers were answered by a diety.
Edited to remove southern dialect ya'll |
by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart. |
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| Edited by - pleco on 06/02/2006 16:40:48 |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 06/02/2006 : 14:33:08 [Permalink]
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What I find most interesting in all this is that a scientific study could even be designed to measure the effect of prayer on illness. But it does indeed seem the study was legitimate science.
Though my own opinion is that prayer will never be scientifically shown to work upon illness, that's just my opinion. If it does work, that would be a very important discovery, indeed. The fact that prayer does not work upon illness is not so startling in itself, but it is startling in that it illustrates that science has taken a bite out of prayer, one of the central rituals of religion.
Flat Earth, Creation, prayer. I wonder: How many other little nibbles could be taken from other aspects of religion by well-designed scientific studies?
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 06/02/2006 : 17:17:55 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
If it does work, that would be a very important discovery, indeed.
Yeah, it would invalidate all of our scientific knowledge, since it'd mean that religious scientists (most of them to date) may be asking God to fiddle with all of their experimental results.
Some might go so far as to say that the very idea of prayer is incompatible with scientific knowledge, since it means that God can tinker with basic observations just because someone asked Him to.quote:
Flat Earth, Creation, prayer. I wonder: How many other little nibbles could be taken from other aspects of religion by well-designed scientific studies?
Geocentrism. The Flood. Babel vs. language evolution. The list of "nibbles" already taken goes on and on. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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Pernicious
New Member
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Posted - 06/03/2006 : 03:49:46 [Permalink]
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I bet this wasn't reported on nearly as much as studies that purported an actual effect from prayer. My own fluffy little local TV station showed these a lot in the last few years.
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If I was the Supreme Being, I wouldn't muck about with butterflies and dandelions, I'd start with lasers, eight o'clock, Day One!
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 06/03/2006 : 05:26:58 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Geocentrism. The Flood. Babel vs. language evolution. The list of "nibbles" already taken goes on and on.
All those "nibbles" have added up to one wonderful, continuing feast for our minds. I can't wait for dessert.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
| Edited by - HalfMooner on 06/03/2006 05:27:50 |
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