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Dude
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Posted - 04/05/2006 :  11:25:36  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
... or the work of satan to fool us into not believing in Bill's god?

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12168265/


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Ricky
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Posted - 04/05/2006 :  11:29:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message
Nonsense! You don't even know if that fossil had kids. Maybe that was the last survivor of it's species.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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Posted - 04/05/2006 :  11:36:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
Don't you just love the inevitability of it all?

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trogdor
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Posted - 04/05/2006 :  13:54:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send trogdor a Private Message
no no no... this is clearly just a discovery of two more gaps in the fossil record!

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filthy
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Posted - 04/05/2006 :  14:00:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
What a marvelous time that was! Acanthostega, icthyostega, and now this. How many more of these remarkable amphibians remain to be found?

And to the intelligent design turkeys, I must point out that just barely short of 100% of all species ever on earth are extinct. Some intelligence; some design, huh?




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filthy
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Posted - 04/11/2006 :  06:32:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Here's a more complete take on it:
quote:
Tiktaalik rosae
Well, here it is in all it's beautiful glory, another piece in the tetrapod origins story has just arrived in two articles in Nature today. I'll give you the chance to oggle at some of the beautiful specimens before I get into the details of what, apart from the obvious makes this thing so interesting.

quote:
a, Left lateral view; b, dorsal view with enlargement of scales; and c, ventral view with enlargement of anterior ribs. See Fig. 3 for labelled drawing of skull in dorsal view. Abbreviations: an, anocleithrum; bb, basibranchial; co, coracoid; clav, clavicle; clth, cleithrum; cbr, ceratobranchial; ent, entopterygoid; hu, humerus; lep, lepidotrichia; mand, mandible; nar, naris; or, orbit; psp, parasphenoid; ra, radius; suc, supracleithrum; ul, ulna; uln, ulnare. Scale bar equals 5 cm. From Daeschler et al. 2006


quote:
This is Tiktaalik roseae, a lobe-finned fish from the Late Devonian Fram Formation of Arctic Canada. The key features that make this animal a lobe-finned fish are the limbs which clearly have a humerus that branches out to a radius and ulna, like our own limbs. But Tiktaalik is clearly different. It has foregone a lot of the other lobe-finned fish conditions for characteristics that are much more like a tetrapod. In fact, Tiktaalik is without question the most tetrapod-like sarcopterygian known to date, and it fills an important gap in the fossil record. Clearly, it's can no longer be safely jammed into that "fish" category.
Still haven't seen anything from ICR or Aneurysms in Genesis on it.





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pleco
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Posted - 04/11/2006 :  06:50:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
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Still haven't seen anything from ICR or Aneurysms in Genesis on it.


That is because they are studying this closely in their scientific labs and research facilities.

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filthy
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Posted - 04/11/2006 :  12:59:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by pleco

quote:
Still haven't seen anything from ICR or Aneurysms in Genesis on it.


That is because they are studying this closely in their scientific labs and research facilities.






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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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filthy
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Posted - 04/12/2006 :  03:50:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message




Well done, Wichita Eagle!




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Bill scott
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Posted - 04/12/2006 :  04:04:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Bill scott a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by filthy





Well done, Wichita Eagle!








More cartoons I see. A worldview based on nothing and cartoons. Just great.

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moakley
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Posted - 04/12/2006 :  04:52:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Bill scott

More cartoons I see. A worldview based on nothing and cartoons. Just great.

It won't matter the creationist made reality "opt-in".

What is your world view based upon again? Faith, testimonials, and co-opted stories. Compelling. How could I have missed it?

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pleco
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Posted - 04/12/2006 :  04:54:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
Bill said:

quote:
More cartoons I see. A worldview based on nothing and cartoons. Just great.


Yeah, totally unlike a Chick tract.

Oh, and how can something be based on both nothing AND cartoons?

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Edited by - pleco on 04/12/2006 05:04:38
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marfknox
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Posted - 04/12/2006 :  04:58:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit marfknox's Homepage  Send marfknox an AOL message Send marfknox a Private Message
Bill wrote:
quote:
More cartoons I see. A worldview based on nothing and cartoons. Just great.
I find it highly ironic that you make this comment after one of filthy's posts considering the huge and beautiful post he recently did about frogs. But anyway, if you honestly think over 100 years of biology is "nothing" then you really need to get your head checked.

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filthy
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Posted - 04/12/2006 :  05:49:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Lighten up, Bill. It's just poking a little fun at people whose world view is based upon a book that describes talking snakes and donkeys, claims of magic, xenophobic madness, and post-mortem pie in the sky for all who swear total fealty.

My world view is based upon things like the previous link I posted, that I'd wager a sawbuck against a bent nickle you didn't open. So, here it is again. Do try to glean something from it.



The Archosaurs






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Bill scott
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Posted - 04/12/2006 :  07:02:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Bill scott a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by pleco

Bill said:

quote:
More cartoons I see. A worldview based on nothing and cartoons. Just great.


Yeah, totally unlike a Chick tract.

Oh, and how can something be based on both nothing AND cartoons?



Natural Selection ends up being nothing. It is not observed and randomness does not create complex and meaningfull information, ever. So it is nothing. Add in your cartoons and you guys are really rolling...

"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-

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pleco
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Posted - 04/12/2006 :  07:08:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
quote:
Natural Selection ends up being nothing. It is not observed and randomness does not create complex and meaningfull information, ever. So it is nothing. Add in your cartoons and you guys are really rolling...


You didn't get it. If something is based on nothing, it cannot also be based on something...oh and you are dead wrong and/or lying to top it off.

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