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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 04/24/2006 :  22:27:49  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
... run on a popular "science" site, anyway.

I found this story at LiveScience.com:
quote:
Evidence of Pyramid Uncovered In Bosnia
By Amel Emric
Associated Press
posted: 20 April 2006
09:44 am ET

VISOKO, Bosnia-Herzegovina (AP) -- Researchers on Wednesday unearthed geometrically cut stone slabs that they said could form part of the sloping surface of what they believe is an ancient pyramid lying beneath a huge hill.

Archaeologists and other experts began digging at this central Bosnian town last week to explore the team leader's theory that the 2,120-foot hill covers a step pyramid, which would be the first ever found in Europe.

"These are the first uncovered walls of the pyramid,'' Semir Osmanagic, a Bosnian archaeologist who studied the pyramids of Latin America for 15 years, said of the stonework found Wednesday.

"We can see the surface is perfectly flat. This is the crucial material proof that we are talking pyramids,'' he said.

Osmanagic believes the structure will prove to be 722 feet high, or a third taller than Egypt's Great Pyramid of Giza.

The huge stone blocks discovered Wednesday appeared to be cut in cubes and polished.

"It is so obvious that the top of the blocks, the surface is man-made,'' Osmanagic said.

Earlier research on the hill, known as Visocica, found that it has 45-degree slopes pointing toward the cardinal points and a flat top. Under layers of dirt, workers discovered a paved entrance plateau, entrances to tunnels and large stone blocks.
When I first read this a few days ago, I thought this "pyramid" would be remarkable, even though there are other pyramids outside Egypt, such as those in Central America and China. But I didn't see any evidence whatsoever in the story to believe this Bosnian pyramid is the real McCoy. What an unsatisfying story, lacking in all important details!

But now I think I see the reason this story was planted in the news in the first place. Tourism.

Here, from CNN.com, is another story about the Bosnian pyramid, in video format. The term, "pyramid scheme" comes to mind. This also reminds me of the recent efforts of the local tourism industry to get scientists to hunt for Bigfoot in a Malaysian jungle.



Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.

Edited by - HalfMooner on 04/24/2006 22:30:18

HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2006 :  21:14:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
My original skeptcism at the discovery of a pyramid in Bosnia (and the terrible AP article in LiveScience written about it) has been at least partially proven to be well founded.

From the new LiveScience article, this one a May 4, 2006 LiveScience "special" by Heather Whipps:
quote:
It's either one of the greatest archaeological discoveries of our time, or man has made a giant pyramid out of a molehill.

In the wake of recent news that evidence of colossal pyramids had been found in the small Bosnian town of Visoko, many in the archaeological community are speaking out and dismissing both the discovery and the man who made it, businessman Semir Osmanagic.

Some critics have gone as far as to call the pyramid an absurd publicity stunt.

But Osmanagic stands by his claim.

"They are jealous," Osmanagic told LiveScience in a telephone interview. "These people are going crazy because they've been teaching students that these [Bosnians] were cavemen, and all of a sudden they are finding complex structures here."

. . .

No formal training

Whatever the outcome of the tests, critics also charge that the media did not do enough research into the background of Osmanagic, who has no formal archaeological training.

"A self-described archaeologist, who believes the Maya and others are descended from Atlanteans ... has been accepted as a legitimate researcher by many news outlets," writes Archaeology magazine online editor Mark Rose, in reference to Osmanagic's somewhat unorthodox interpretation of the Mayan culture found in his book, "The World of the Maya" (Gorgias Press, Euphrates imprint, 2005). The Bosnian spent fifteen years studying pyramids throughout the world and much of that time was in Mexico and Central America.
[My emphasis]

"They are jealous..." Note the tell-tale sign of the crackpot, using this sort of language.

My question now is: Will LiveScience better vet their science coverage in the future, or will they continue to print whatever AP spews out as factual?


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 05/05/2006 21:40:13
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Ghost_Skeptic
SFN Regular

Canada
510 Posts

Posted - 05/05/2006 :  21:43:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Ghost_Skeptic a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by HalfMooner

"They are jealous..." Note the tell-tale sign of the crackpot, using this sort of language.


Not to mention this guy believes in Atlanteans

"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. / You can send a kid to college but you can't make him think." - B.B. King

History is made by stupid people - The Arrogant Worms

"The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism." - William Osler

"Religion is the natural home of the psychopath" - Pat Condell

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter" - Thomas Jefferson
Edited by - Ghost_Skeptic on 05/05/2006 21:44:29
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 05/06/2006 :  04:35:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Ghost_Skeptic added:
quote:

Not to mention this guy believes in Atlanteans
Yeah, I guess that's a little mark against his credentials, too. Plus, he's a Texan, though originally from Bosnia.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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