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Starman
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Which in this case means nothing.
https://members.humaneventsonline.com/order.php?offer=438
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Though liberalism rejects the idea of God and reviles people of faith, it bears all the attributes of a religion itself. In Godless, Ann Coulter throws open the doors of the Church of Liberalism, showing us:
* Its sacraments (abortion)
* Its holy writ (Roe v. Wade)
* Its martyrs (from Soviet spy Alger Hiss to cop-killer Mumia Abu Jamal)
* Its clergy (public school teachers)
* Its churches (government schools, where prayer is prohibited but condoms are free)
* Its doctrine of infallibility (as manifest in the "absolute moral authority" of spokesmen from Cindy Sheehan to Max Cleland)
* And its cosmology (in which mankind is an inconsequential accident)
Then, of course, there's the liberal creation myth: Charles Darwin's theory of evolution.
For liberals, evolution is the touchstone that separates the enlightened from the benighted. But Coulter neatly refutes the charade that liberals are rationalists guided by the ideals of free inquiry and the scientific method. She exposes the essential truth about Darwinian evolution that liberals refuse to confront: it is bogus science.
Now is the time to reserve your copy. Start your subscription to HUMAN EVENTS and make sure you get a FREE copy of Ann Coulter's landmark book, Godless.
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 04/27/2006 : 01:03:39 [Permalink]
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Fuck. I had something much more intelligent written out but I did something...maybe hit control-Z...and everything I had written was gone.
Basically the gist was Coulter is an insane hag who has now decided to throw her lot in with Robertson, Falwell, and the rest of the freaks. Take a good, long, hard look at who you are supporting, christians. It used to be common knowledge that Jesus was a liberal. See how his values have been so perverted? Now you have to deny science and hate welfare moms to be christ-like? Jesus' message was never one of venom and hate. I'm not in any shape or form religious, but even I can tell that according to their own values, the republicans and conservatives are straight hell-bound.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 04/27/2006 : 04:07:04 [Permalink]
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| The myth of evolution, public school teachers are evil, this is a "landmark book". Right. |
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
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Posted - 04/27/2006 : 08:59:08 [Permalink]
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| Oh great. She starts with the bogus claim that liberals are largely godless and builds her case from there, making the whole book one big lie, which is nothing new coming from Ann. All I can say is that she is preaching to a choir that loves her and keeps her in the money. Anyone with half a brain, and that includes conservatives, can see through her bullshit… |
Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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sts60
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 04/27/2006 : 09:49:16 [Permalink]
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Take a good, long, hard look at who you are supporting, christians.
I'm not supporting her.
but even I can tell that according to their own values, the republicans and conservatives are straight hell-bound.
Eh, while tirading (if there is such a word) is plenty of fun, and I freely admit I do my own share - let's not lump all of them together with Ms. Coulter. Really, how is that different than saying all liberals are atheists/Communists/mindless Cidny Sheehan apologists/whatever?
FWIW, I happen to be Christian, registered indepedendent voter, and relatively liberal - at least frothing right-wingers tend to me annoy me a bit more than frothing left-wingers  and no, I'm not calling anybody here frothing whatever. |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
4574 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2006 : 10:43:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by sts60
Eh, while tirading (if there is such a word) is plenty of fun, and I freely admit I do my own share - let's not lump all of them together with Ms. Coulter.
Look at the Conservative agenda:
Screw the environment.
Screw the poor.
Screw minorities.
Screw gays.
Screw women's rights.
Screw low-wage workers.
Screw immigrants.
Screw constitutionally guaranteed personal liberties.
Screw non-Christians.
Screw science.
Screw the safety of our soldiers.
Do everything possible to help big business.
This is the direction the Republican party has taken. If their party isn't representing their values any longer, then conservatives should speak up or change parties. If not, then I can only assume they support the policies and actions of the people they've elected.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/27/2006 : 11:03:35 [Permalink]
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| Congrats you are now on Ann Coulter's level with your sweeping false generalities about the 'other side'. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
5310 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2006 : 11:06:46 [Permalink]
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I wouldn't question anyone that called themselves Conservative, but I have to say I wonder about people like Ron Paul that still call themselves Republican. Even he went to the Libertarian Party a few years ago. Why's he staying now?
Also, Humbert, part of sts60's point is that you're lumping all Christians together. |
I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
4574 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2006 : 11:18:40 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Gorgo
Also, Humbert, part of sts60's point is that you're lumping all Christians together.
I'm sorry if I was unclear. I didn't mean that all christians are conservatives. Rather, I feel the ones who are are poor christians.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
4574 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2006 : 11:23:46 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Congrats you are now on Ann Coulter's level with your sweeping false generalities about the 'other side'.
I'm talking about the politicians in office and the reforms and policies they've enacted. These are concrete things you can see with your own two eyes, not false "sweeping generalities." I don't pretend to know what's in the hearts and minds of the average conservative or republican voter. I'm saying if they support the current direction their party has gone, then they have largely abandoned traditional christian values. You tell me how that's a false statement.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard
USA
5310 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2006 : 11:35:10 [Permalink]
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I'm saying if they support the current direction their party has gone, then they have largely abandoned traditional christian values. You tell me how that's a false statement.
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I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
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Robert Hunter
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sts60
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 04/27/2006 : 11:45:11 [Permalink]
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I didn't mean that all christians are conservatives. Rather, I feel the ones who are are poor christians.
Well, what about conservatives who are also poor and minority and deeply religious? (I laughed when I wrote this because we just saw The Ladykillers on rerun the other night.)
Or Christians who are just small-government conservatives but progressive in other areas?
Or evangelicals who believe care of the environment is a religious duty?
Or evangelicals who accept evolutionary theory (yes, they do exist)?
These people actually exist, y'know. |
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 04/27/2006 : 11:52:06 [Permalink]
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Guess what, their sweeping geheralities are seen by their own two eyes as well.
You didnt specify lawmakers only in your original statement.
One mans, "Screw immigrants." is another mans "Border Protection" if you get my drift. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
3834 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2006 : 12:42:56 [Permalink]
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| Actually I think that's "don't screw gays", HH. |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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4574 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2006 : 16:32:54 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by beskeptigal
Actually I think that's "don't screw gays", HH.
Hehe, good point.
Ok, I'll stop over-generalizing. All I meant was traditionally the traits christians stressed and strove toward were charity, compassion, humility, stewardship, acceptance, and love; and I fail to see any of these values expressed in the policies or actions of the current Republican-controlled govenment even though they claim to be the more "christian" political party.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
| Edited by - H. Humbert on 04/27/2006 16:38:14 |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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4574 Posts |
Posted - 04/27/2006 : 16:41:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Gorgo
And all the the same sentiments go for "liberals."
No, Gorgo, not at all really. Do you have a point to make? Or do you just like popping into threads and saying "you too" without ever offering any justification for such a statement?
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
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