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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 06/13/2006 : 17:18:09 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Storm
Energy gets transformed... right... One theory on apparitions is that of Residual Energy.. Energy left behind from a person that gets replayed to certain individuals. These apparitions are not conscious beings just recordings of an event performed long ago.
Storm, you have no explanation for what this "residual energy" is or why is behaves differently from all the other kinds of energy we know of. You can't explain how human beings produce this "energy," or how this energy "records" anything, or how that recording can be "imprinted" upon on an environment. There is nothing scientific about this scenario you keep spinning, so stop using scientific words like "energy" and "theory" which have established scientific meanings.
Your ideas are very religious, Storm, in the sense that they are 100% based on speculation and faith and an absence of testable facts.
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Storm
SFN Regular
USA
708 Posts |
Posted - 06/13/2006 : 18:02:13 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
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Storm, you have no explanation for what this "residual energy" is or why is behaves differently from all the other kinds of energy we know of. You can't explain how human beings produce this "energy," or how this energy "records" anything, or how that recording can be "imprinted" upon on an environment.
My explanation for residual energy is- Charged emotions emittinating within a person during an event such as murder, rape, suicide, effect the environment in ways that they are enabled to be replayed by certain "gifted individuals" No you are right H. humbert I cannot explain these things.. So far.. but at least I am at the start. How if we were to experiment ..How could it be tested? How would you put together a study on proving or disproving this suggestion of mine... Residual Energy. |
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 06/13/2006 : 19:57:32 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Storm
Originally posted by H. Humbert
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Storm, you have no explanation for what this "residual energy" is or why is behaves differently from all the other kinds of energy we know of. You can't explain how human beings produce this "energy," or how this energy "records" anything, or how that recording can be "imprinted" upon on an environment.
My explanation for residual energy is- Charged emotions emittinating within a person during an event such as murder, rape, suicide, effect the environment in ways that they are enabled to be replayed by certain "gifted individuals" No you are right H. humbert I cannot explain these things.. So far.. but at least I am at the start. How if we were to experiment ..How could it be tested? How would you put together a study on proving or disproving this suggestion of mine... Residual Energy.
Storm, it is indeed encumbant upon you to prove any extraordinary claim with extraordinary evidence. You must certainly know by now that this the gold standard for us skeptics. But before you can even start to design your experiment to address your problem, you'll need to clearly and rationally define what you are looking to confirm or disprove.
Your key term, "emittinating" is not even a word. Do you mean "emitted by" or "emanating from"? These have two separate meanings. And, by "Charged emotions," do you mean electrical charges, magnetic charges, or simply, "strong emotions"? Or are you deliberately using wording intended to confuse physical forces and emotions?
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 06/13/2006 : 21:27:16 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Storm
While I agree conscious survival of oneself should be left to religion... my thoughts on the disintegration of oneself -the physical self-and its interaction with the environment of no consequence to religion at all.
You misunderstand me: by "religious beliefs" I meant "a bunch of fables which are comforting to those who think them to be truth." That is, after all, the entire foundation of the "survival after death" speculation. The people who believe it find it extremely discomforting that when they die, that will be it, the end. So, they first believe that there's something afterwards, and build a big, trembling stack of other unsupported assertions on top of their belief, and call it "evidence" even though it's just unbridled conjecture.quote:
Energy gets transformed... right...
What kind of energy?quote:
One theory on apparitions is that of Residual Energy..
No, it's not a theory.quote:
Energy left behind from a person that gets replayed to certain individuals.
There is no known kind of energy which can "get replayed."quote:
These apparitions are not conscious beings just recordings of an event performed long ago.
Doesn't matter what they are or are not if you cannot provide evidence that they exist.
But we've been through this all before. Why am I answering you as if you just presented this as a new theory? You've been here for a year-and-a-half now, with 150 years of "psychical research" at your disposal, and you're still saying the same damn things you were in late 2004. |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
4574 Posts |
Posted - 06/14/2006 : 10:53:15 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Storm
My explanation for residual energy is- Charged emotions emittinating within a person during an event such as murder, rape, suicide, effect the environment in ways that they are enabled to be replayed by certain "gifted individuals" No you are right H. humbert I cannot explain these things.. So far.. but at least I am at the start. How if we were to experiment ..How could it be tested? How would you put together a study on proving or disproving this suggestion of mine... Residual Energy.
Well, first you would need to find a way to test for the presence of this mysterious energy of yours. Do you have some machine or meter which can detect it reliably? If so, can you detect it in living people? If your hypothesis is that this energy is emotional in some way, can you build a meter that detects the presence of this energy in highly emotional people but not in calm people?
If not, if you are simply relying on the say-so of "gifted individuals" (i.e. psychics) to tell you when they detect this mysterious energy, then your tests should focus on the psychics themselves. James Randi has lots of experience testing psychic claims. You might be able to pick up a few pointers from him. If there are any psychics that you work with on a regular basis, perhaps design a study to see how accurate they really are. For instance, pick an old house that has no known history of ghostly activity and bring the psychic there. Tell them that there have been reports of apparitions of a small boy and echoes of childish laughter in the house. Then see if the psychic confirms your fake story or not.
Of course, almost all psychics will have an excuse. Even if the house has no known history of hauntings, a psychic still might claim they're able to pick up on things you can't see. That's why it's very difficult to test the claims of psychics. It's nearly impossible to prove they aren't seeing what they claim. Still, it might be worthwhile for you try to trick the psychic just to see if they are jerking you around or not. It won't be conclusive evidence of fraud, but it would certainly cast doubt on the psychic's claims.
Of course, if you choose to believe the psychic and take their word at face value, that's a personal decision. It just isn't science.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 06/14/2006 : 14:34:01 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Storm
My explanation for residual energy is- Charged emotions emittinating within a person during an event such as murder, rape, suicide, effect the environment in ways that they are enabled to be replayed by certain "gifted individuals" No you are right H. humbert I cannot explain these things.. So far.. but at least I am at the start. How if we were to experiment ..How could it be tested? How would you put together a study on proving or disproving this suggestion of mine... Residual Energy.
So, for a bunch of observations that have better explanations, you're providing an explanation that you can't explain?! |
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