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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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 Posted - 07/03/2006 : 14:38:43
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This stuff in Iraq just gets harder and harder to unravel: quote:
Al-Zarqawi's cell phone reportedly yields surprises
Monday, July 3, 2006; Posted: 7:38 a.m. EDT (11:38 GMT)
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- Abu Musab al-Zarqawi had the phone numbers of senior Iraqi officials stored in his cell phone, according to an Iraqi legislator.
Waiel Abdul-Latif, a member of former Prime Minister Ayad Allawi's party, said Monday that authorities found the numbers after al-Zarqawi, leader of al Qaeda in Iraq, was killed in a U.S. air strike on June 7.
Abdul-Latif did not give names of the officials. But he said they included ministry employees and members of parliament.
He called for an investigation, saying Iraqis "cannot have one hand with the government and another with the terrorists."
Meanwhile, al-Zarqawi's wife told an Italian newspaper that al Qaeda leaders sold him out to the United States in exchange for a promise to let up in the search for Osama bin Laden.
The woman, identified by La Repubblica as al-Zarqawi's first wife, said al Qaeda's top leadership reached a deal with U.S. intelligence because al Zarqawi had become too powerful.
She claimed Sunni tribes and Jordanian secret services mediated the deal.
"My husband has been sold to the Americans," the woman said in an interview published Sunday. "He had become too powerful, too troublesome."
She was identified only as "Um Mohammed," which means "mother of Mohammed" and would be a nickname, not her full name.
The Rome-based newspaper said the interview was conducted in Geneva and described her as Jordanian and about 40 years old.
In Jordan, Al-Zarqawi's eldest brother, Sayel al-Khalayleh, said the family had not been aware of the woman's whereabouts for about two years.
Iraq's national security adviser said Sunday that al-Zarqawi had been buried in a "secret location" in Baghdad despite his family's demand that the body be returned to his native Jordan.
Mouwafak al-Rubaie would not say when the Jordanian-born militant was buried, or give any specifics on the location of the grave.
The U.S. military confirmed the burial but declined to give details.
"The remains of Abu Musab Al-Zarqawi were turned over to the appropriate government of Iraq officials and buried in accordance with Muslim customs and traditions," the military said in an e-mailed statement. "Anything further than that would be addressed by the Iraqi government."
Al-Zarqawi's brother demanded that his body be transferred to Jordan, and accused the United States of lying.
"Bush took his body to the United States," al-Khalayleh told The Associated Press in a telephone interview from his home in the Jordanian city of Zarqa.
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Meanwhile, my own supposition that maybe al-Zarqawi was ratted out by top Al Qaeda leaders on the Afghan-Pakistan border is getting no particular support. Bin Laden had taken a firm position against al-Zarqawi's sectarian attacks upon Shi'ias. I'd suggested that if suicide bombings of Shi'ias declined now that Zarqawi's dead, along with an increase in suicide attacks upon coalition troops, that would be evidence that "headquarters" has taken control of Al Qaeda in Mesopotamia. In reality, though, both kinds of attacks seem to have increased. Bin Laden himself has now further wrecked my suggested rule of thumb by reversing himself and now calling for Sunnis to attack Shi'ias in Iraq. The bastard's giving me no kind of help at all!
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Edited by - HalfMooner on 07/03/2006 14:39:30
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Orwellingly Yurz
SFN Regular
USA
529 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2006 : 17:33:31 [Permalink]
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Well, Halfmooner, my friend....I see great minds work in the same fashion.....
Al - Zarqawi's Death Fails to Stop Bloodshed
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) -- Deaths among Iraq civilians, police and soldiers
dropped slightly last month but the number of wounded rose, indicating
little easing of violence since the killing of terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi,
government figures showed Monday.
---------------------------------------------------------------------My Goodness. I just can't believe this! Help, help! I was sure these bloodthirsty morons would just stop blowing up innocent people the minute we blew up al-Zarqawi and some of our battle-fatigued soldiers raped and killed Iraqi civilians. I am so disappointed about this. Help, help!
I guess the only logical thing to do now is drop nuclear bombs on Iran and North Korea as soon as possible. That ought to show them.
(Show who what?)
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"The modern conservative...is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy. That is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
--John Kenneth Galbraith
If dogs run free
Then what must be,
Must be...
And that is all
--Bob Dylan
The neo-cons have gotten welfare for themselves down to a fine art.
--me
"The meek shall inherit the earth, but not the mineral rights."
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"The great thing about Art isn't what it give us, but what we become through it."
--Oscar Wilde
"We have Art in order not to die of life."
--Albert Camus
"I cling like a miser to the freedom I lose when surrounded by an abundance of things."
--Albert Camus
"Experience is the name so many people give to their mistakes."
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2006 : 18:03:11 [Permalink]
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quote:
Originally posted by Orwellingly Yurz
I guess the only logical thing to do now is drop nuclear bombs on Iran and North Korea as soon as possible. That ought to show them.
(Show who what?)
Orwellingly Yurz
No, Bush'll just drop them on Iraq. North Korea's leader is a purely batshit-crazy nutcase. Bush kinda sees eye-to-eye with him.
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 07/03/2006 : 19:05:15 [Permalink]
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| I just watched the movie, "Why We Fight". Man that is so depressing it's very hard to take. The gist is (not that I didn't already know this) that the corporate heads from the military industrial complex have complete control over the US government by means of media propaganda which controls the electorate. We went to war to feed the military machine along with continuing the policy of dominating the world's resources, mainly oil. I knew all this. I've known it for years but to see it spelled out and after I sat their thinking about how I thought we were past this after the end of the Reagan years.... I am bummed. Guess I'll go read the Ted Steven's quote again for a laugh. |
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Orwellingly Yurz
SFN Regular
USA
529 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2006 : 19:24:29 [Permalink]
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This to BeSkeptigal, whom I'm inferring is female, eh...gal?
Here's a link to a film review which I found while on the surf regarding "Why We Fight."
http://tulsatvmemories.com/chewwhy.html
Orwellingly Yurz |
"The modern conservative...is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy. That is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
--John Kenneth Galbraith
If dogs run free
Then what must be,
Must be...
And that is all
--Bob Dylan
The neo-cons have gotten welfare for themselves down to a fine art.
--me
"The meek shall inherit the earth, but not the mineral rights."
--J. Paul Getty
"The great thing about Art isn't what it give us, but what we become through it."
--Oscar Wilde
"We have Art in order not to die of life."
--Albert Camus
"I cling like a miser to the freedom I lose when surrounded by an abundance of things."
--Albert Camus
"Experience is the name so many people give to their mistakes."
--Oscar Wilde |
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard
USA
3834 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2006 : 19:35:32 [Permalink]
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What bums me out the most is all this confirms the news I've watched and books I've read for years. The information is out there and easily obtainable. No one pays attention to it.
The mainstream news, if it was only a matter of getting cheap news, could just report what is on Democracy Now and they'd have scoops every night. Once in a while the main news will report something as if it is a revelation yet it was reported on Democracy Now sometimes a year earlier. I don't think those main news idiots even know DN is there. A few news people do because they have been interviewed on DN but the rest seem oblivious.
Clearly it is more than merely providing news as a product. It is a coordinated effort to make the product benefit the corporations that own the broadcast stations. And Murdock owns news outlets in Europe as well. People are so stupid. |
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