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Orwellingly Yurz
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Posted - 08/13/2006 :  14:02:50  Show Profile Send Orwellingly Yurz a Private Message
YO: Just THIS In From Seymour...on CNN with the Wolfman...(excerpt of transcript as cabled on CNN today)

BLITZER: In this new article you have in The New Yorker, you also write this about the president: " 'The president is more determined than ever to stay the course,' the former defense official said. 'He doesn't feel any pain. Bush is a believer in the adage, "People may suffer and die, but the Church advances." ' He said that the president had become more detached, leaving more issues to Karl Rove and Vice President Cheney. 'They keep him in the gray world of religious idealism, where he wants to be anyway,' the former defense official said."

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HERSH: Suffice to say this, that this president in private, at Camp David with his friends, the people that I'm sure call him George, is very serene about the war. He's upbeat. He thinks that he's going to be judged, maybe not in five years or ten years, maybe in 20 years. He's committed to the course. He believes in democracy.

HERSH: He believes that he's doing the right thing, and he's not going to stop until he gets -- either until he's out of office, or he falls apart, or he wins.

BLITZER: But this has become, your suggesting, a religious thing for him? HERSH: Some people think it is. Other people think he's absolutely committed, as I say, to the idea of democracy. He's been sold on this notion.

He's a utopian, you could say, in a world where maybe he doesn't have all the facts and all the information he needs and isn't able to change.

I'll tell you, the people that talk to me now are essentially frightened because they're not sure how you get to this guy.

We have generals that do not like -- anymore -- they're worried about speaking truth to power. You know that. I mean that's -- Murtha in fact, John Murtha, the congressman from Pennsylvania, which most people don't know, has tremendous contacts with the senior generals of the armies. He's a ranking old war horse in Defense Appropriations Subcommittee. The generals know him and like him. His message to the White House was much more worrisome than maybe to the average person in the public. They know that generals are privately telling him things that they're not saying to them.

And if you're a general and you have a disagreement with this war, you cannot get that message into the White House. And that gets people unnerved.

OY sez: Hmmm. I see nothing's changed since Cheney and his sidekick, G. War took office. The entire Hersh-written article is on the New Yorker website.

Another wrinkle I've seen this morning is Prime Minister Olmert possibly being kicked out of the Israeli government with a more rightwing hawkish Likud-type taking over. (This in the UK Guardian)

I think President Cheney is trying to get Benjamin Netanyahu in office so Israel can start lobbing nukes on Beruit, Damascus and Tehran.

And now...for the bad news....

OY!

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Edited by - Orwellingly Yurz on 08/13/2006 14:07:40

beskeptigal
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Posted - 08/13/2006 :  22:18:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
I think Bush's latest comments have been the most UN-diplomatic one can imagine. All for his personal political gain or maybe ego or both no doubt. It's as bad as, "Bring it on".
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