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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 09/12/2006 :  05:22:45  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20060911-103340-7169r.htm

You had better sit down for this one. (Or stand up than sit down again) It appears by this "Study" that, shocking as it may seem, air travel is linked to the spread of the flu!!!

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filthy
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Posted - 09/12/2006 :  06:27:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
A-hah! Yet another reason for me to avoid airplanes -- as if I needed one!




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HalfMooner
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Posted - 09/12/2006 :  13:03:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Say the avian flu mutates and goes pandemic somewhere in the Old World, spreading from human to human. What would be the value of simply slowing down its arrival on the American shores by a couple of weeks? I can only think of one possible answer: Giving more time for production of, and inoculation with, an effective vaccine (assuming one existed), or for the crash production and distribution of Tamiflu. Only if that particular timing occurred, would delaying the pandemic be of any value. Otherwise, now or later, the flu would take its deadly course.


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beskeptigal
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Posted - 09/13/2006 :  01:27:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
First, in defense of the study, while knowing the traveling public spreads the flu may be a no brainer, and knowing air travel speeds things up is again not a surprise, had the results been negative one could avoid wasting time on efforts to quarantine air travelers if it wasn't going to matter.

As for slowing the spread, there is another very important reason to slow the spread, that is resources. Hospital beds could become quite in demand should the pandemic flu peak rapidly. While if the curve is wider with a lower peak, you can have the bed someone else is no longer in. Less absenteeism would occur as the people who do survive recover and return to work while the next guy gets ill. And as much as we've prepared, there's nothing like the arrival of the threat to get those final plans up and running. A rapid arrival would catch people off guard despite the planning.

So it is more than just time to build up your stockpiles of antivirals and vaccine. You want a lower wider pandemic peak if at all possible.
Edited by - beskeptigal on 09/13/2006 01:28:20
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 09/13/2006 :  01:40:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by beskeptigal

First, in defense of the study, while knowing the traveling public spreads the flu may be a no brainer, and knowing air travel speeds things up is again not a surprise, had the results been negative one could avoid wasting time on efforts to quarantine air travelers if it wasn't going to matter.

As for slowing the spread, there is another very important reason to slow the spread, that is resources. Hospital beds could become quite in demand should the pandemic flu peak rapidly. While if the curve is wider with a lower peak, you can have the bed someone else is no longer in. Less absenteeism would occur as the people who do survive recover and return to work while the next guy gets ill. And as much as we've prepared, there's nothing like the arrival of the threat to get those final plans up and running. A rapid arrival would catch people off guard despite the planning.

So it is more than just time to build up your stockpiles of antivirals and vaccine. You want a lower wider pandemic peak if at all possible.

Ah, that makes good sense!


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