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Orwellingly Yurz
SFN Regular

USA
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Posted - 11/05/2006 :  14:42:22  Show Profile Send Orwellingly Yurz a Private Message
YO: Bush Administration confidant Pastor Ted Haggard fesses-up this weekend to being a closeted gay man for most of his adult life. I was touched by the CNN video I saw today showing the sorrow and regret of some of the members of his New Life Church in Colorado Springs. It showed some of them with tears in their eyes, speaking words of forgiveness and how great Reverend Haggard is for stepping forth in such a painful act of contrition. Yes, it was touching to see the pain of Pastor Ted's faithful flock.

Now, if Brother Ted could just get them to forgive others NOT in their church who also lead homosexual and bi-sexual lives, they'd be on their way to knowing a Jesus kind of Christianity.

Amen? Say Hallelujah?

OY!

"The modern conservative...is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy. That is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
--John Kenneth Galbraith

If dogs run free
Then what must be,
Must be...
And that is all
--Bob Dylan

The neo-cons have gotten welfare for themselves down to a fine art.
--me

"The meek shall inherit the earth, but not the mineral rights."
--J. Paul Getty

"The great thing about Art isn't what it give us, but what we become through it."
--Oscar Wilde

"We have Art in order not to die of life."
--Albert Camus

"I cling like a miser to the freedom I lose when surrounded by an abundance of things."
--Albert Camus

"Experience is the name so many people give to their mistakes."
--Oscar Wilde

Edited by - Orwellingly Yurz on 11/05/2006 14:43:02

HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2006 :  14:57:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Well stated, OY!


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
5310 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2006 :  15:08:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/05/haggard.allegations/index.html

He admits only to "sexual immorality" and buying meth and throwing it away.

He could be president. "I did have not have sex with that man, and I never inhaled, er swallowed, er....."

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2006 :  15:58:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Gorgo

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/11/05/haggard.allegations/index.html

He admits only to "sexual immorality" and buying meth and throwing it away.

He could be president. "I did have not have sex with that man, and I never inhaled, er swallowed, er....."

Then, again, Clinton was not in the midst of a campaign to deny access by his fellow citizens to chubby young women.


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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
5310 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2006 :  17:20:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
True.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
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Orwellingly Yurz
SFN Regular

USA
529 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2006 :  18:18:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Orwellingly Yurz a Private Message
YO, Gorgo: Is your point that Clinton is not any better-valued to be president than Haggard?

And, one more thing: is your online name here pronounced with soft G's or hard G's...or both...in each syllable?

"G's" are likely the most difficult for correctly assuming how they sound in a name. Sometimes they can be silent; sometimes like an
"H," sometimes like the French Z-J sound as in the name Giselle.

Even the "G" in MY online name uses a different sound than anything listed above.

Give us something clear this time, Gorgo.

OY!

"The modern conservative...is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy. That is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
--John Kenneth Galbraith

If dogs run free
Then what must be,
Must be...
And that is all
--Bob Dylan

The neo-cons have gotten welfare for themselves down to a fine art.
--me

"The meek shall inherit the earth, but not the mineral rights."
--J. Paul Getty

"The great thing about Art isn't what it give us, but what we become through it."
--Oscar Wilde

"We have Art in order not to die of life."
--Albert Camus

"I cling like a miser to the freedom I lose when surrounded by an abundance of things."
--Albert Camus

"Experience is the name so many people give to their mistakes."
--Oscar Wilde
Edited by - Orwellingly Yurz on 11/05/2006 18:19:26
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2006 :  18:37:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message
Mrs. Betty Bowers' take on it:
quote:
Mrs. Betty Bowers' Words of Christian Concern for Ted Haggard's Delicious Disgrace

Dear Brothers and Sisters in Delighted Snickers:

I suspect that this will be a rather uncomfortable weekend at the Ted Haggard tax-free mansion. You see, Reverend Haggard is a vociferous spokesperson against gay marriage and, until yesterday, his wife probably had no idea she was actually in one.


As we all know, or will soon find out, the esteemed Mrs. Bowers is the World's Best Christian.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2006 :  19:16:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message
Laughed my ass off, Fil! Good stuff.


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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
5310 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2006 :  19:18:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Orwellingly Yurz

YO, Gorgo: Is your point that Clinton is not any better-valued to be president than Haggard?

And, one more thing: is your online name here pronounced with soft G's or hard G's...or both...in each syllable?

"G's" are likely the most difficult for correctly assuming how they sound in a name. Sometimes they can be silent; sometimes like an
"H," sometimes like the French Z-J sound as in the name Giselle.

Even the "G" in MY online name uses a different sound than anything listed above.

Give us something clear this time, Gorgo.

OY!



My point was absurdity for absurdity's sake. How you pronounce things is up to you. The way I pronounce it is Gorgo.

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The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2006 :  19:19:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message
My guess is that whenever Haggard finally meets with his friend James Dobson, Dobson will sit him down and ask: "So, what's it like? You know, doin' meth and having anal sex? 'Cause I've always been curious..."
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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard

USA
3834 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2006 :  20:37:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
He admits nothing, claims to not know the guy. He admits making the guy's acquaintance, buying meth but never using it and no gay sex....

As if one couldn't see it coming, the full confession, forgive me Lord for I have sinned comes out today.

quote:
"I am guilty of sexual immorality ... I am a deceiver and a liar. There is a part of my life that is so repulsive and dark that I've been warring against it all of my adult life," Haggard said in the letter, which was reads by a church overseer during a Sunday morning service.

"... from time to time, the dirt that I thought was gone would resurface, and I would find myself thinking thoughts and experiencing desires that were contrary to everything I believe and teach," he said.


Clearly if you happen to be gay and brought up to hate your sinful self for it, it really really messes your head up. I hope they have this guy on a suicide watch.

Edited by - beskeptigal on 11/05/2006 20:38:25
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Gorgo
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USA
5310 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2006 :  20:41:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
Yet he really admits to nothing except that he has sinned. And he kept asking the Lord for help, and no help was given. Amazing. What happened to God here? I thought religion was such a help to people.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



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beskeptigal
SFN Die Hard

USA
3834 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2006 :  22:24:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send beskeptigal a Private Message
Gorgo, read the confession. He admits to "sexual immorality", "some but not all" of what the accuser claims, "giving in to his dark side" and on and on.

If you think that isn't some guy admitting gay sex then you are being a bit too literal here.
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Orwellingly Yurz
SFN Regular

USA
529 Posts

Posted - 11/05/2006 :  22:53:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Orwellingly Yurz a Private Message
YO: BETTY BOWERS FOR PRESIDENT...I say.

And: spelling the name "Gorgo" doesn't get it when describing its pronunciation using just symbols without benefit of sound.

Does the "G" in the first syllable in your online name sound like
(choose one of the following)the "G" in the word "gourd" or the word "giant?" And the same question goes for the second syllable in your name.

When I post something for you in the future, I want to make sure that I'm pronouncing your name correctly in my head. I have this thing about saying things, even to myself, correctly. It's very anal of me, I know.

Thanks and OY!

"The modern conservative...is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy. That is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
--John Kenneth Galbraith

If dogs run free
Then what must be,
Must be...
And that is all
--Bob Dylan

The neo-cons have gotten welfare for themselves down to a fine art.
--me

"The meek shall inherit the earth, but not the mineral rights."
--J. Paul Getty

"The great thing about Art isn't what it give us, but what we become through it."
--Oscar Wilde

"We have Art in order not to die of life."
--Albert Camus

"I cling like a miser to the freedom I lose when surrounded by an abundance of things."
--Albert Camus

"Experience is the name so many people give to their mistakes."
--Oscar Wilde
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Ghost_Skeptic
SFN Regular

Canada
510 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2006 :  00:02:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Ghost_Skeptic a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Cuneiformist

My guess is that whenever Haggard finally meets with his friend James Dobson, Dobson will sit him down and ask: "So, what's it like? You know, doin' meth and having anal sex? 'Cause I've always been curious..."



Exactly - when Canadian Energy Dufus Minister Rona Ambrose apointed a fomrer Focus on the Family nitwit president as her head of staff, Comedian Rick Mercer commented that these people (Focus on the Family) think about gay sex more than gay people do. (See Rant for Week of October 10, 2006

"You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. / You can send a kid to college but you can't make him think." - B.B. King

History is made by stupid people - The Arrogant Worms

"The greater the ignorance the greater the dogmatism." - William Osler

"Religion is the natural home of the psychopath" - Pat Condell

"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter" - Thomas Jefferson
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
5310 Posts

Posted - 11/06/2006 :  04:04:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
quote:
It's very anal of me, I know.Thanks and OY!



There's the problem, you see. You're using the wrong part of the anatomy.

Hard G's, man. That's all tough guys like me use. I don't use words with no soft G's.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



Edited by - Gorgo on 11/06/2006 04:05:22
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